tobitheog

serial builder, content creator and curious engineer
35k+ IG & Tiktok

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looking for US-based UGC creators (18-35) who make natural talking-head and product-demo videos.

we’re growing the vetted creator roster on Sovian for upcoming recurring paid work.

reply with your portfolio + 🇺🇸

#ugc #ugccreatorsneeded

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Pointing out where an analogy differs isn’t a rebuttal.
Every analogy differs somewhere, otherwise it would just be the thing itself.

What matters is whether the feature I’m pointing at carries over: same act, different context, different treatment.

You say prior history only applies to individuals.

I’m saying groups have history too, and that’s the part that carries over. If you think they don't or the history doesn't carry over in public reaction and sentiment, explain why.

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@Alllinjest @LawnchairDemSoc @hhhzlit @MiamiDon223 @Calebej37 your inability to engage with an analogy effectively tells me a lot about your logical debate skills

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but again go back to your original point

- white people are racist and are punished
- black people are racist in the same way and go unpunished

and to put it as simply as I can, I am saying you are wrong on two counts

1. both are punished and escape punishment, there is no evidence to establish a meaningful bias. your "evidence" of bias is your "observed" reality - which I've pointed out is guided by your environment and algorithm - unreliable sources. just as you can say you've seen it countless times, I have seen the inverse countless times. I'm quite literally a black man, my reality, experience and algorithms are different to yours. We can't use this to establish facts.

2. black people cannot be racist in the SAME or an EQUIVALENT manner to white people, based on "cultural and society impact" as you put it. that is not to say they CANNOT be racist at all. you can argue this if you wish, but you'd have to be dishonest.

I've laid it out as simply as I can
If you're truly trying to discuss I'll continue, but otherwise I have no intention of continuing to argue when you're not engaging honestly.

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addressed this in another reply but you're wrong,

it DOES matter

we can both commit the same crime and receive different sentences based on context

that's why we have degrees of murder and manslaughter in court.

can't be a double standard when equivalence has not been established

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@Alllinjest @LawnchairDemSoc @hhhzlit @MiamiDon223 @Calebej37 it's sad watching you argue this

there's a sliding scale of the perceived severity.

2 people can commit the same crime and get different sentences depending on their prior history and context.

why is this concept so hard to understand?

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@MiamiDon223 @Alllinjest @LawnchairDemSoc @Calebej37 like???

talking about cultural and societal ideas and abstracts. but the idea that there is a scale to discrimination and racist behaviour are incomprehensible to him

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double standard requires 2 identical behaviours being treated differently

a white girl imitating a monkey to a black person is not equivalent to the reverse. one carries centuries of dehumanization behind it, so it provokes a stronger reaction and goes viral. the reverse doesn’t have that viral appeal

so what you’re seeing isn’t how often each gets punished, it’s which ones get amplified. it’s like thinking flying is more dangerous than driving because plane crashes make bigger headlines

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@Alllinjest @LawnchairDemSoc @hhhzlit @MiamiDon223 @Calebej37 then you cannot draw infallible conclusions from these ideas, or say things as statement of fact

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black people don't "get to be".
your whole argument is premised on what goes viral.

that speaks more to algorithms, not about who gets away with what

and if anything white people also do get to be racist.
the lady that called a kid the n word multiple times? they raised like $300k for her

unless you have actual numbers, you're speculating based on viral videos and incidents, not real life.

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@viraltoktracker this is for replit lol

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@tomato__luvr this is the whole abg cmo thing in the techsphere all over again

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@Alllinjest @LawnchairDemSoc @MiamiDon223 @Calebej37 who said anything about privilege lol

you just made a false equivalence that I pointed out

it's also dishonest to pretend like racial dynamics don't exist, you can't bring up "cultural social influence" and disregard it as soon as it stops serving your point

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since you're so educated in social influence then you should also recognize that there doesn't really exist a racial slur on the same level as the n word - given the history and the context.

and you say this like many prominent internet figures have not been seen saying it freely

yet their careers continue flourish

or far-right groups create gofundmes for them

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the numbers for this are definitely too low.

but as someone who has been on both sides

it's give and take.

if we're being real a lot of UGC creators content isn't very good, and doesn't perform.

There definitely has to be a balance where the creator and brand are equally invested in making the campaign successful

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@Alllinjest @LawnchairDemSoc @MiamiDon223 @Calebej37 undeniable but no statistic or evidence
lol

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@Calebej37 when you do shit like this you can't control the consequences.

so don't do dumb shit

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@hxyden I think I'll be fine