@Herotherogue But thats the word potential gain you aren't getting a 21 you are getting a try at 21, only people that got a key are those 4 people who upgraded their 19 into 20. If you deplete it that 21 don't matter anything.
@Herotherogue I would rather in every case just skip that que by playing fotm tank or healer with practically zero risk and barely much of wait time than gambling my own key with really low chance to get anything out of it.
@Herotherogue So who is really winning in that situation, only reason the key holder is winning is because of how rare and valuable keys are then he is winning by being able to do keys by first place.
@Herotherogue Wtym no risk just imagine everyone need a 20 key to do a 20 and if you deplete it everyone gets their 20 key depleted, thats what everyone losing score means. Now noone is losing anything except the keyholder and he will be only one fucked aka even less risk.
@Herotherogue Like for example if you lose less rating for finishing a key now you even have a reason to actually do the whole key, not just wipe on a single pull for 3h.
@Herotherogue Current system can't work with soloQ its will be obviously bad, but if there is mmr it will be literally like every single competitive game on the planet with soloQ. And actually mmr can fix so many problems like not having a reason to finish and practise a key.
@Herotherogue No thats biggest problem of m+ everyone should have stackes no just the keyholder, everyone should have to put a key or score. Thats practically biggest bottleneck of m+ not having enough keys into the cycle as its too big of punishment being the keyholder.
@Herotherogue@ItsYent Homework keys are easy with full premade, but with a pug its just simple massive waste of time since you aren't on same learning plane. I actually don't find keys different than raid, but i'm a healer i get zero enjoyment of doing something i have already figured out.
@Herotherogue@LowLoge There is no leveling there is 5-8h tutorial about the new systems that you have to rush so you can play the game and meaningful gearing don't exist since bfa after that maybe it just seasonal game. Everything is made so you can spawn and be able to instantly do raid or push keys.
@Herotherogue@LowLoge Then you buy all your consumables with wow tokens and push rating at least thats how keys work they aren't mean to be some chat room, you only have character development in classic.
@Herotherogue@LowLoge WoW didn't have the word RPG inside it since literally shadowlands, its just lobby game with open world nowadays. There is no such thing as character development like you practically log and spawn with full bis gear since they started to push it in esport direction.
@Herotherogue@LowLoge If people want to play with friends sure those who don't want to let them play too like literally every modern game out there no matter how much you force people to get connections if they want to use only lfg alone they will, but they will have miserable time at same.
@Herotherogue@LowLoge How is league a single player game xd you can say the same about every multiplayer game out there its obviously better to play with friends, if i want to speak to people i'll go do delves and raids not timed dungeons why people put so much complete non-sense behind the word mmo.