plus procedures have become so advanced that theres plenty you can do without it even being recognisably augmented. its not about the principle of the surgery itself being liked but what drives women to want to make changes to their natural selves thats being discussed
some replies talking about how โno they donโt do it for menโ well the patriarchy doesnt mean โthings being done for menโ, the patriarchy is a system. certain men not liking cosmetic surgery has nothing to do with the fact it has become popular due to societal pressures on beauty
this isnโt even a hyperbole๐ญ women are genuinely mutilating their functioning bodies to appease the patriarchy: bbls, nose jobs, foot binding, vaginal cosmetic surgery, to name a few
like the entire industry is profit focused and hybe came after big 3, youโre telling me they have unique methods for payola and fraudulence that other companies arent going to use? ๐ญ that makes no sense
@Gumbasfuu8@Oscar18233820 yeah i saw that too but if you look at all of ops replies as whole its clear they dont have a perfect relationship since they mentioned their parents are conservative, its definitely not with the intention of just being silly
@ventibluu@dominantinageci i mean most of boompala isnt actual singing tho its more of a talking tone, she sounds the same as she always does when she actually sings
glitts are not โforcingโ concepts, groups are allowed to have multiple intersecting aesthetics, and frankly most kpop groups just do wtv so i dont understand why illit are held to a higher standard where every single thing they do is scrutinised and has to be perfectly consistent
you can see people in the replies complaining about how illit had One hiphop and y2k themed performance which doesnt mesh with the rest of their concept and iโm just confused as to when kpop groups stuck to one concept for every single performance of their career
@LoveStarzz1@angelixblue but you were talking about lazy mass production which cant be said to be happening at all when freelance creatives are actually being commissioned and platformed
@jiafeistanacc@honeyllit theyre singing the song exactly how its supposed to be? ๐ญ like sure you can say you dislike their vocal tones but that doesnt make them bad singers
@LoveStarzz1@angelixblue i have my gripes with hybe but this doesnt really work for illit specifically because theyve been mostly working with freelancers and small artists/designers for the creative part of their work though, like iโd like to see what artists theyve been stealing from?
@helpimjusttired that person said theyre an arab muslim though so of course theyd be exposed to a more strict culture, i dont think their intention was to generalise they just said what they think
@kepiheartz@lenomtang an experienced singer will probably still be able to sing well, but as someone who also sings and performs being able to hear yourself is really important especially if you dont have perfect pitch
@kepiheartz@lenomtang if im not wrong most of the time idols dont have their in-ears during the encore, so they cant hear their own voice (over the crowd and loud music) which can affect pitch and make them less confident
@OmegaSuperHuman woniโs channel went mega viral due to clips blowing up on the korean side, like she got millions of views and more subscribers than the groups youtube channel. at first people didnt even know she was an idol but once they did that led to interest in the group