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Account dedicated to the study and propagation of Greek history, folklore and identity in the English language.

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@ArtanGjini73765 @IzmetKosmeti @PolarisIsGreece @vaj_ulliri Also I wouldn't call either of them our "best scholars", especially Efthymiou who isn't particularly relevant.

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🇬🇷 Map of Arvanite Settlements/Populated Villages in Southern Greece(19th and 20th Century).

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@ArtanGjini73765 @IzmetKosmeti @PolarisIsGreece @vaj_ulliri about Arwehler right now and I'm not going to waste my time trying to find in which part of her lecture Efthymiou claimed that 40% figure (which is easily disprovable anyway) or that she even claimed it in the first place.

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@IzmetKosmeti @ArtanGjini73765 @PolarisIsGreece @vaj_ulliri Athens was literally the only Grecophone settlement in Central Attica. Plaka was founded by Arvanite settlers from neighbouring villages. It was THE Arvanite neighbourhood and Arvanites made up a small minority of the population of Old Athens.

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@Albanianismvs @PolarisIsGreece Lalaioi and Tourkovardouniotes aren't included in the map.

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@vaj_ulliri @PolarisIsGreece Indeed, as is the linguistic assimilation of Acharnes/Menidi and Marousi/Amarousion. Sourmelis is a reliable source, as is the local tradition of the two settlements. If we go by Davranoglou's statements on the unpublished Arvanite genotypes then this also took place elsewhere.

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@Arberor1190 @skylegendd1 These maps are known to be biased, and biased maps exist on the Greek side too. The difference is that Greeks often acknowledge bias and choose not to spread it, while Albanians frequently present such maps as their main source of evidence.

Here is one of the Greek sided Maps:

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@kts_sp66528 Εντάξει πρώτα απ'όλα αρκέτοι απ'αυτούς τους οικισμούς έχουν Ελληνοφωνήσει πια κιόλας, όχι μόνο ταυτίζονται οι κάτοικοι τους ως Έλληνες (όπως κι οι Αρβανιτόφωνοι) αλλά δεν αυτοπροσδιορίζονται καν ως Αρβανίτες πια.

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🇬🇷 Map of Arvanite Settlements/Populated Villages in Southern Greece(19th and 20th Century).

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Source of the Map and the Populations:
https://t.co/mPdITH9Wif

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Population By Region (2/2)
7. Messenia: 17 villages, 10,512 people
8. Achaea: 32 villages, 8,969 people
9. Locris: 11 villages, 7,073 people
10. Elis: 17 villages, 6,303 people
11. Cyclades: 17 villages, 5,227 people
12. Arcadia: 1 village, 1,207 people
Total: 238,939 people

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Population By Region (1/2)
1. Attica: 63 villages, 62,626 people
2. Argolis: 62 villages, 45,452 people
3. Boeotia: 59 villages, 35,739 people
4. Corinthia: 61 villages, 31,759 people
5. Euboea: 53 villages, 13,299 people
6. Laconia: 17 villages, 10,773 people

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🇬🇷 🇦🇱 Map of Greek settlements within Albanian borders during the early modern period.

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🇬🇷 🇦🇱 Map of Greek settlements within Albanian borders during the early modern period.