@manonthemoon43@hellas_history Lower Macedonia was in the Mycenaean world. Also Makednoi kai Maketai were Greek Dorians. The other parts of Macedonia had thracian population which was expelled.
Can any Albanian explain to me in what right Mind you call Alexander the Great or Macedonians as Illyrians?
Here is a speech of Alexander The Great Himself saying Macedonians shall fight for GREECE and also clearly addressing Illyrians as Foreign Troops as quoted by Arrian
@blendi_meshi After crushing Thebes’ revolt in 335 BC, Alexander convened his Greek allies, who voted to raze the city, enslave captives, and garrison the Cadmea. Ancient writers (Arrian, Diodorus, Justin) emphasize the allied decision and long-standing grievances against Thebes.
@Vegeta86_@IllyrianJ2bL283 Because there are no Roman Illyrian samples. Serbia Roman Balkan is a Albanian/Balkan proxy, BTW if i put Medieval Albanian, the Albanian influance grows smaller to nearly 0%.
@blendi_meshi Thats complete cope, He quoted Alexander directly, as he did numerous times. HIs text having survived and possibly not some others doesn't mean shit.
~ MACEDONIA IN THE MYCENAEAN WORLD ~ 🧵
Since Skopjans couldn't find one argument to prove how Hatzopoulos "the Greek propagandist" is wrong, I continue with this supplementary thread citing prominent experts that completely agree with that "Greek propagandist".
@manonthemoon43 The reasons you gave were Extremely weak. Also my question was Rhetoric, I was more of Providing Alexander's words of calling Illyrians foreigners to shush those Albanians claiming Macedonians.
@manonthemoon43 They are Greeks, Northern Dorians to be exact, They are the same Macedonians mentioned by Herodotus to be speaking Dorian. Makednoi and maketai were both of the same stock as well
@manonthemoon43 You are still Talking about Genetics. Alexander I didn't spit in a tube to prove his Greekness. Genetics are a Random Modern Construction. Also 1 or 2 Scholars who made a statement shouldn't impact history either, unless they provide proof of their Statement.
@manonthemoon43 Macedonians were a mix of the Makednoi, Maketai(Both of which are North Dorians who spoke Dorian as well) and the North Mycenaeans. Also even Scholars have started Abandoning the Phrygian Theory, I think you should too...
@manonthemoon43 Paeonians were their Own Group of people. So were the Illyrians, so were the Greeks. People chimping out anc claiming everything that isn't theirs shouldn't impact history...
@manonthemoon43 Maybe they had 5-15% Input in Modern Greeks depending on location, The chance they inpacted a Whole ANCIENT Greek population tho are extremely low to 0%
@manonthemoon43 historians can only estimate that their time in Illyria lasted anywhere from a few weeks to a single season. I don't think people start lifelong families in weeks...
@manonthemoon43 Northern Epirotes which you people mixed with wouldn't have Drastic Ammounts of Ancient macedonian. Also History wasn't written on DNA, having 10% Ancient macedonian doesn't mean you are Macedonian, It means you were fvcked my Greeks at some point.
@manonthemoon43 Being Banished to Illyria mean anything... They later Settled in Upper Macedonia. Also the same document says they came from Argos. Also here:
@manonthemoon43 We only overlap genetically because We experienced the Same MENA/Slavic Migrations and because Albanians Mixed with North Epirotes while Greeks mixed with the Vlachs which are similar to Albanians Genetically. If you test the Genetic Similarity of Epirotes and Souther Illyrians..