Tim V

Prison is full of people who have never roller-skated.

[Tim V @tvand17]

@marozas0_0 @grraarrgghh @LawSelfDefense @jasonhickel Socialism is not widely cultural. It’s a matter of whether the state should work as a means to provide workers with productive-capacity ownership, or whether the state should provide that to private entities who then could dictate laborial terms to workers.

[Tim V @tvand17]

@marozas0_0 @grraarrgghh @LawSelfDefense @jasonhickel Who do you think developed fascist Italy? Who do you think funded Mussolini? Do you not understand the pivotal role established-capital played there? Fascism is a merger of corporate and state. That’s exactly what we have there.

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@marozas0_0 @grraarrgghh @LawSelfDefense @jasonhickel Do you think corporate controlled states that actively bust workers unions and seize collective property are socialist? Because if you do your definitions are warped and you need to just accept your ideology for what it is.

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@marozas0_0 @grraarrgghh @LawSelfDefense @jasonhickel Mussolini was like the biggest proponent and enthusiast of capitalism bar none.

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@marozas0_0 @grraarrgghh @LawSelfDefense @jasonhickel “Italian people” in this context means corporations. I do not understand how you don’t get this.

[Tim V @tvand17]

@marozas0_0 @grraarrgghh @LawSelfDefense @jasonhickel Yes. The Nazi government, with almost entirely corporate investment, domestic and abroad, took control of the industries. And a lot of land.

[Tim V @tvand17]

@marozas0_0 @grraarrgghh @LawSelfDefense @jasonhickel They were not. They were letting private corporations buy out factories and industrial entities at fire sale prices, and crushing every labour movement insight. Took money from American monopolists and aligned themselves with Mussolini.

[Tim V @tvand17]

@marozas0_0 @grraarrgghh @LawSelfDefense @jasonhickel The Nazis were so far disaligned with and actively repressing repressing both groups. On very basic grounds of a left-right economic spectrum.

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@marozas0_0 @grraarrgghh @LawSelfDefense @jasonhickel What you are talking about is nationalism and ethno-alignment social movements. There were not anti-Marxist socialists in the 30’s. There were Stalinists and USSR hardliners vs various groups who thought revolution and state power under socialism should work differently.

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@marozas0_0 @LawSelfDefense @jasonhickel The Nazis were radically pro-privatization of business/commerce/state-power. They framed it in socialist terms to make it palpable to the people.

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@marozas0_0 @LawSelfDefense @jasonhickel Yes, again these things sound nice(or they may to you). But it isn’t historically true. People saying things doesn’t equate to what they actually do or have done.

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@marozas0_0 @LawSelfDefense @jasonhickel Populists who wanted to get people otherwise interested in culture but unaware of global economics pretended to be, yes. But they were not in practice. This really isn’t a hard concept.

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@marozas0_0 @LawSelfDefense @jasonhickel Jesus Christ my man. You can study and cherry pick quotes all day and you can also do things the other way. There is a very clear material historical record of the Nazi party and left-right alignment of that era. This is embarrassing.

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@marozas0_0 @LawSelfDefense @jasonhickel So Hitler is a Socialist, mainly interested in fighting the only communist super power in the world, while aligning himself with fascists? He’s a socialist fighting for the right of corporatist and jingoistic rule?

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@marozas0_0 @LawSelfDefense @jasonhickel And once again, he wrote that book with the idea of rising to power in mind. He wasn’t different than would be politicians of any time period.

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@marozas0_0 @LawSelfDefense @jasonhickel Who do you think he ran against in his first campaign?

[Tim V @tvand17]

@whatifalthist You are all losers and the feds do not care about you

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@Sosananga @ForidaMan33 @HilzFuld The difference between settler colonialism and imperial colonialism? Israel is the former. They both tend to be pretty bad