@FasoliaGigantes@TallbarFIN So a fuel crisis and by extension a food crisis is nothing of value? I’m willing to bet ordinary Russians will eventually beg to differ.
@JaskePeter@Mylovanov First of all it’s the Ukrainians who decide when they will stop fighting and what kind of concessions, if any, they will accept.
Second, any ”off ramp” must discourage any imperialistic behavior and put an end to using force to grab land. That means 1991 borders.
@VPerevedentsev@Giubacapra85587@JohannaNyman5 So? Did they do this by flooding Petrozavodsk with Finnish passports, manufacture support for separatism and only then send in unmarked troops they denied were there?
Again, false equivalence.
@VPerevedentsev@Giubacapra85587@JohannaNyman5 NATO is not at war. Just as the Soviet Union was not at war in Vietnam.
1) Russia retreated from Kyiv long before any meaningful help arrived.
2) The war in Ukraine is a cost to bear, but has no impact on ongoing rearmament.
3) GDP is a measure of government expenditure.
@DavidJFoord@SSelloso@matchristiantho@michaeldweiss She is also a product of a god in a fairytale. I mean, I never get offended when Marvel take liberties interpreting Norse mythology and get all sorts of things ”wrong”. It’s their story to tell. I can always refrain from watching.
@SSelloso@DavidJFoord@matchristiantho@michaeldweiss The historical context of Helen is that she is fathered by Zeus, as a bird. Should she then have feathers for added immersion and credibility too?
Increased distance to the real world, gives more room for interpretation.
@VPerevedentsev@Giubacapra85587@JohannaNyman5 Defeated by whom? Is there an ongoing world war I’ve missed? And GDP is certainly something. I understand it’s inconvenient for you, since it highlights the poor state of you citizens.
@VPerevedentsev@Giubacapra85587@JohannaNyman5 Did I say that? You said Karelia, not Petrozadovsk specifically. I was referring to the region, of which you stole a large part of in 1940.
Man you just shifts the goalposts constantly.
@VPerevedentsev@Giubacapra85587@JohannaNyman5 Karelia? That has for sure spent its lager part of history as Finnish. But are you implying they sent unmarked troops into Russia, fanning the flames of separatism and then denied it?
@VPerevedentsev@Giubacapra85587@JohannaNyman5 Oh God. The Nordic countries have the same GDP as Russia, albeit with 100M less inhabitants. So the difference per capita is monumental.
And we famously spent 200 years as neutral, just so we could snag Kalliningrad while you least expect it 🙄
@VPerevedentsev@Giubacapra85587@JohannaNyman5 No, we don’t. It would be an economic disaster to annex Kalliningrad and try to bring them up to our level. They don’t have anything we want. And if they did, we’d trade for it. You know, the way you expand an economy in the modern day.
@dangainor@DavidJFoord@matchristiantho@michaeldweiss Nah, I’m just pointing out the different implications in bending the narrative in a 3500 year old epic with gods and mythology compared to something supposed to exist in modern day Africa. But I was in no way negative to the notion.
@DSchillerTX@geopoliticalpol@WarMonitor3 Ah yes, they have absolutely not closed down their borders recently, in preparation for a new mobilization. It’s just normal Russian procedures 👍