Honestly, this guy has said it all, I feel so ashamed.
We are talking about financing insecurity, and you are here telling us it's political propaganda.
@parniyi@Simply_Sanusi@AminuNass No more back and forth. Policy makers, take note: the method of learning shouldn’t overshadow the evidence of learning. 😂 Fa subḥānaka Allāhumma wa biḥamdik, astaghfiruka wa atūbu ilayk.
@parniyi@Simply_Sanusi@AminuNass Students can learn through lectures, independent study or other resources. What matters is whether they can demonstrate the intended knowledge and skills. Where presence is integral to learning, require it; where it isn’t, allow flexibility.
@parniyi@Simply_Sanusi@AminuNass Crucially, an open-ended attendance policy doesn’t mean lecturers will walk into empty classrooms. Many students learn better in classrooms, others through independent study or other methods. We should accommodate all, and use assessment to hold students accountable for learning.
@parniyi@Simply_Sanusi@AminuNass If the post were about a student failing after assessment, I wouldn’t make this point. It’s about denying him the chance to be assessed because of non-attendance. Non-attendance may breach a requirement, but it doesn’t prove he didn’t learn. Only assessment can establish that.
@jimohhafeezco@AminuNass Course structure should guide: where interaction is limited, attendance flexibility is reasonable; where participation or experiential learning is central, attendance matters more. Overall, let performance inform the consequence, so students take responsibility for their choices.
@jimohhafeezco@AminuNass I think even in the US, attendance isn’t necessarily considered in isolation. If a student consistently demonstrates strong performance with little or no attendance, why automatically withdraw them?
@Simply_Sanusi@AminuNass I respect the rule, but my point is about what the rule is meant to achieve. Attendance can be part of continuous assessment, but it shouldn’t be conflated with character or learning. Independent study also requires discipline.
@s_ishaq_mb@rahman_jagz@AminuNass Even for doctors, some subjects like anatomy... can be studied independently, a student should be able to take a test to demonstrate what they know. Clinical competence/lab is different: it requires supervised practical training, here attendance and engagement are imperative.
@M_Auwal_jada@AminuNass Attendance can be part of discipline, but independent learning can be too. I’m making a case for lecture based courses. My point is that consequences need not prevent a student from being assessed on what they learned.
@AminuNass Attendance can be an academic requirement, but I’m not sure compulsory attendance itself should be “academic responsibility.” Responsibility implies some intentional engagement; compelled compliance is different. The question is whether attendance is the goal or learning.
@AminuNass@M_Auwal_jada Universities should be broad-minded in teaching responsibility, not compelled compliance. Attendance doesn't guarantee learning, and students learn differently. Independent study also requires discipline.
@AminuNass A requirement can be legitimate without every consequence being beyond question. If policy says he forfeits his class status, that settles the procedural issue. But attendance and learning aren't identical. If the test assesses learning, why deny him the chance to demonstrate it?
@rahman_jagz@AminuNass Also on character and learning, if attendance demonstrates discipline, surely independent learning can demonstrate discipline too. And if the test measures learning, why deny him the opportunity to demonstrate it? We shouldn’t conflate classroom attendance with character/learning
@rahman_jagz@AminuNass Attendance can be an academic requirement, but I’m not sure compulsory attendance itself should be “academic responsibility.” Responsibility implies some intentional engagement; compelled compliance is different. The question is whether attendance is the objective or learning.