@TheWeirdoRed@punishedherodor@WetTapDancing@Diasreverie 2/2
that books claims of supposed eye witnesses isnt exactly authentic and is mostly biased, since most of these people never saw what actually went down in mecca or medina, and made these claims based on rumors and other factors that grew this false sense of terror in themselves
@TheWeirdoRed@punishedherodor@WetTapDancing@Diasreverie 1/2
separating families, especially mother slaves from their children is prohibited, and conquered people naturally framed Islamic conquests as apocalyptic divine punishment or viewed the new faith through the lens of their own theology, rather than understanding islam on its own
@TheWeirdoRed@punishedherodor@WetTapDancing@Diasreverie yeah, the whip being a light stick, wand, or a leather strap, not a weapon of torture, it was a disciplinary act to get her to remove her veil, there is a multitude of comparisons between slave treatment at their time and at european enslavers' times
@TheWeirdoRed@punishedherodor@WetTapDancing@Diasreverie 2/2
and thats why i keep bringing up islam's instructions on this topic, it was meant to be a slow abolishment, while making sure it would be as humane as possible, errors still happened and hypocrites still existed, but that's humanity's fault, not religion's.
@TheWeirdoRed@punishedherodor@WetTapDancing@Diasreverie 1/2
gotta remind you that we're talking about a society literally over 10 centuries ago btw, it just shows how much slavery was integrated in that society, culturally, economically, and politically
while it is wrong, trying to abolish it all too quickly would lead to a collapse
@TheWeirdoRed@punishedherodor@WetTapDancing@Diasreverie 2/2
as for the second image, umar only advised the man and it literally says he had the intention of talking with his owner to lower his tax, but the man was too furious and assassinated umar before he had the chance to talk to his owner.
@TheWeirdoRed@punishedherodor@WetTapDancing@Diasreverie 1/2
while umar was known for his harshness as a leader, the first text suggets that he did this to avoid blurring the line between free women and war prisoners, because if all were veiled misconception could happen. and the verb "daraba" here mostly means he snatched her veil off
@TheWeirdoRed@punishedherodor@WetTapDancing@Diasreverie no? ask yourself, if a book commands to treat people with utmost care do you think it would allow the kind of bullshit youre saying? obviously not, i don't care for no hypocrite or a false, and horribly misinterpreted claim
@TheWeirdoRed@punishedherodor@WetTapDancing@Diasreverie its pretty logical that when the only source of permissible slavery was through legitimate prisoners of war, in an era that was full of constant conquers and wars, it would mean that the percentage of war prisoners would spike. add along with that islams guide to treating them
@TheWeirdoRed@punishedherodor@WetTapDancing@Diasreverie the point of the hadith was that the good deeds of those who just became muslims carry on and count in their favor, that doesnt mean preislamic arabs had this as a consistent, encouraged act. unlike islam
@TheWeirdoRed@punishedherodor@WetTapDancing@Diasreverie yes, he had them, but do you know his treatment of them? the west is traumatized when the hear the word slavery because of the abominations the americans and europeans did to the africans
but islam reduces the weight of that word by enforcing proper care of them, and freeing them
@TheWeirdoRed@punishedherodor@WetTapDancing@Diasreverie id like to see what the source of your image is, seems biased
and in a culture with slavery so integrated in arabian society 14 centuries ago, islam made it humane first, commanding caring after slaves like they are family members, and significantly encouraged freeing them
@punishedherodor@WetTapDancing@Diasreverie >"unable to understand basic statements"
>is unable to understand basic royal family etiquette, used to perserve the bloodline, status, and wealth of said families
@punishedherodor@WetTapDancing@Diasreverie hey man you're the one that introduced the idea of a royal woman having """"casual"" sex"" with her slave, that fired too many alarms in my head.
@punishedherodor@WetTapDancing@Diasreverie you're the delusional one for inserting your porn-damaged cuckold fantasy onto entire dignified royal families, as if you had a single clue on how most of them operated, all you do is look at everything from a modern and mostly damaged moral lens