“Mike and Will both made mistakes.”
Be so fucking serious. This is not a group project.
I don’t know what fanfiction you’ve been reading, but we clearly did not watch the same show. Mike making a mess of everything does not magically mean Will also did something wrong.
some of you watched Mike screw up for five seasons straight and somehow concluded that Will needs to take responsibility too.
No. Mike should be thanking his lucky stars Will ever put up with him in the first place.
Will gets dragged, and somehow that’s all fair game. But the second it’s Mike, suddenly we’re talking about nuance, empathy, and respect. And somehow this level of protection is reserved for the most narratively useless character in the sho
Because apparently you can say the most insane thing imaginable about Will, blame it on “toxic fans,” add a quick “but I love him,” and suddenly nobody questions it.
Meanwhile everyone becomes a character respect advocate the second the conversation shifts to Mike.
People act like the only people capable of saying weird shit about Will are his haters.
Meanwhile half the fandom starts every tweet with “I love Will” and then proceeds to say the most dehumanizing, insulting thing you’ve ever read about him.
People act like the only people capable of saying weird shit about Will are his haters.
Meanwhile half the fandom starts every tweet with “I love Will” and then proceeds to say the most dehumanizing, insulting thing you’ve ever read about him.
mike wheeler were talking about. the character fandom has rewritten, defended, projected onto, and reconstructed a thousand different ways.
its just fascinating how even fanfiction cant revolve around will for five minutes before people start acting like mike is being oppressed.
ithe way some of you get genuinely upset about will being loved, prioritized, or put at the center of fanfics is so weird to me. canon already put that kid through hell. now even fanfiction is too much? like damn, can he at least be the favorite in somebody else’s google doc?
ithe way some of you get genuinely upset about will being loved, prioritized, or put at the center of fanfics is so weird to me. canon already put that kid through hell. now even fanfiction is too much? like damn, can he at least be the favorite in somebody else’s google doc?
the funny thing is you’d think this fandom would be the one place where will gets to be loved, prioritized, and cared for after everything he’s been through.
but apparently even fanfiction is too much for some of you.
and let’s be real for a second. if mike had gone through even half of what will did, nobody would be complaining about him being the center of every fic. nobody would be calling it “babying.” nobody would be acting like he’s stealing attention from other characters.
the funniest thing about “stop babying will” discourse is that it always comes from people who have spent years explaining why every single thing mike has ever done was actually justified, misunderstood, symbolic, necessary, strategic, and secretly genius.
What does his age have to do with any of this? And yes, he suffered because of it. Yes, he was subjected to homophobia. But he never tried to change himself because of it either. That’s literally the point. He faced those reactions and still remained himself.
I mean, yeah, I am a will defender, which is exactly why it annoys me when people insist a canonically feminine character isn’t feminine. Femininity is an important part of his character.
Please leave Will and fem Will alone and go back to arguing about Mike’s skinniness or whatever. God forbid someone says Mike isn’t skinny, since that seems to be what you people actually care about.
Calling a fem gay character fem annoys you this much? stop talking about will It’s Pride Month and some of you still have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. The way you discuss femininity, queerness, and gay characters is so consistently ignorant and disrespectful
mike being skinny is NOT in fact, integral for his character, like, did we not see him beating up a demo with a shovel? or the fact that the directors specifically told the actor to start working to look bigger in the screen? am i missing something?
You admit it’s the ‘80s. Then you complain that the clothes aren’t “feminine enough.”
What exactly did you expect?
Also, I need some of you to realize that femininity is not just about clothing. It never has been.
cant reply since op blocked me LOL but yeah no joyce is not feminine clothing does not have a gender and yes, i know it is in the 80s but idk about u but these outfits dont seem super fem to me