@Quirk22@jared_shult I never even mentioned Trump in that entire response, mate. Who are you arguing against? Me or some ghost in your head?
Regardless, Trump openly used inflammatory rhetoric and then pardoned people who actually did assault police officers and commit violent acts.
@cyclnvancouver "unimportant to me"
Yeah, there's the problem. It's you. It's always you. It's never about the society that actually allows you to live your life. It's how YOU feel. Individualism is a disease.
@cyclnvancouver Not all poor people are thieves but most thieves are poor. The US being "rich" is meaningless because our prices are far higher than other countries. Wealth is extremely relative.
@cyclnvancouver "some suck but many are great"
And if they suck, the workers they manage should have the authority to remove them from their positions and replace them with somebody who is great. "Moving employers" only works for uncompetitive jobs, they'll just replace you otherwise.
@cyclnvancouver "the system works"
If you measure working as producing things? Sure? Worker cooperatives also then "work" by that metric and are far more equitable and better of a system than traditional capitalism.
The working class are people whose primary income comes from wages from labor.
@cyclnvancouver "there is room for raises"
But that never actually happens, not really. Some of the top CEOs make more than 400x the salary of their average worker despite not manufacturing a single cent of it.
You're going to have to demonstrate to me where this happens at.
@cyclnvancouver Sorry but that's just wrong. Poverty creates desperation. Desperation creates crime. People who are unable to make ends meet with conventional jobs will turn to illicit means, whether that be robbery, theft, or drug dealing.
You did not study criminology if you do not know this.
@Quirk22@jared_shult Not only is that statement false [civilian & constitutional coups exist, mate], but also there were people who attended January 6th who were arrested on gun charges. One was literally filmed discharging a firearm into the air.
Stop letting other people think for you. Research.
@cyclnvancouver "the smaller, the better"
And the federations of worker cooperatives that exist in Spain? They're far more resilient to market dynamics than private firms and yet numerous federations stretch across the entire country.
Size isn't a factor. It's about how it's structured.
@cyclnvancouver I literally listed some of the most common jobs in the present day. I can keep going if you want. Plenty of people working in Nvidia and Microsoft aren't able to make ends meet.
But sure, if we exclude every example of billionaires not making their workers wealthy, they do.
@cyclnvancouver "So what?"
And there-in lies the problem. You've convinced yourself, again, that the world is destined to be evil and exploitative. That's exactly what they want you to think, mate. It's been conditioned into you because they want you to be unquestioning.
@cyclnvancouver make ends meet*
Billionaires are NOT your friend, mate. DoorDash just recently got sued in NYC for something along the lines of $200 million for withholding wages from their dashers. They consistently fuck over their employees and the economy as a whole.
@cyclnvancouver "make many employees quite wealthy themselves"
Is a door dasher wealthy? How about the Amazon delivery worker? The Wal-Mart stocker? None of these people even make enough to meet.
Your responses scream that you were either sheltered, born wealthy, or you're ragebaiting.
@cyclnvancouver "they can work but only under certain limited conditions"
Like? I have worked for and helped organize worker cooperatives. They can work the same exact conditions as any other business model. They're just far more equitable than private corporations.
@cyclnvancouver "anyone can survive mental illness"
Mate, you don't even know what mental illness is if this is your conclusion. There are some nasty illnesses that exist out there that ruin people's lives. Please educate yourself before making such negligent responses.
@cyclnvancouver Additionally, most crime can be attributed to poverty. The higher the poverty rate, the higher the crime rate. This is a trend across borders and is not a strictly U.S. thing.
@SaraHunter78@Beach_Bum_oo7@Tsar_Martyr I love how you guys say batshit insane things like "atheists think there's nothing wrong with pedophilia", and then the second it backfires you guys are like ""UHM, NO! NO THAT IS FALSE, YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND CHRISTIANITY AND CATHOLICS AREN'T CHRISTIANS!"
Pathetic.
@sheddingpanda@jared_shult Which law made it illegal to have a job? I held a job all the way through Biden's presidency. Should I be in jail right now?
@Quirk22@jared_shult I don't know if you just have collective amnesia but January 6th was an attempted coup, stated so by the many private group chats by organizations like the Proud Boys participating within it.
Much different than a few opportunists hiding in a protest to steal and loot.