@DeusNonIridetur@okok_kotul lol yeah, it was definitely to “oppress” you, not to join together and become stronger so that we can’t get pushed around and actually oppressed by our age old enemy the Germans… Look how well that ended.
Unfortunately the history books in Serbia are almost entirely useless, you won’t find any actual important information in them. You have to do some of your own research and digging to get to the truth.
I2a is much older than EV-13, and existed in the Balkans long before it. You’re thinking of a specific branch of I2a carried by some of the Slavs that moved into the Balkans much later to joins their brethren. Either way the Slavs have always carried it and it is indigenous to Europe, unlike the Shqipatrs who mainly carry a haplogroup that originates outside of Europe…
Right, because names like Orahovo, Golem, Brisani, Gajde, Gorić, Polje, Orenje, Medar, Dobroš, Janjar etc. aren’t Serbian, they just sound Serbian because they’re written in Cyrillic... 🤦♂️ You can write them in Latin letters and they’re still Serbian lol
Again, please explain how Slavs supposedly left toponyms that lasted for centuries after only ruling for a short time and Ottomans who ruled for half a millennium didn’t. I’ll wait.
Maybe if you weren’t so obsessed with genetics you would understand the nuance of the situation. Slavs are not just R1b, they are mainly a mix of R1b and I2a, the latter being the oldest native haplogroup in Europe, and it is predominantly held by Serbs/Southern Slavs. Just because some Slavs migrated to the Balkans in the 6th century doesn’t mean they weren’t already living there, but again, because of your genetic obsession you can’t accept that.
You also seem to believe that genetics = culture and language. Just because modern day Shqiptars carry the same ancient genes as Serbians as well as others doesn’t mean that they were speaking Albanian, it means those people were once the same population as the rest of us that got assimilated, or Albanised over the past couple of centuries…
My kind has always been here, we have zero connection to the Ural mountains besides the Slavs that left the Balkans and went North to settle those lands long ago (this can be found in nearly every early Eastern and Central European Slavic chronicles)
Scupi is the Roman name for Skoplje because they didn’t have the letter љ (or “lj”) It makes total sense, and again Scupi still sounds Serbian as it literally translates directly to gather or a gathering of people…
Again, no, Niš and Budva are NOT Shqiptar toponyms, no matter how many times you say it or how much you wish they were. Hate to break it to you…
First of all it’s Skoplje, not Shkup. Just because Shqiptars call it that doesn’t make that the actual name. Second of all even if it was Shkup, skup litteraly means a gathering of people in Serbian, so there’s a really easy explanation for you.
No, Niš and Budva are not Albanian toponyms lol. I hate to break it to you but someone has been feeding you bs.
The point is very relevant because it speaks to the fact that there are so many Slavic toponyms in Albania for a reason, the same reason they extend all the way down to the Peloponnesian Island, because Serbs/Slavs have always lived there. Unless you’re also going to try to use the Bulgarian Empire excuse even though they never reached down that far south.
It has nothing to do with how many remain in Albania now because many have been changed, and there is still a lot more than is admitted. Shqiptars will try to explain away as many as possible even though they are obviously Slavic names…
Exactly, you’re literally proving my point… lol.
Even after 500 years Turkish names barely stuck, and yet you’re trying to say that a brief Bulgarian rule supposedly left behind so many toponyms that still last till this day after 1000 years? That wouldn’t happen unless the population was Slavic, and spoiler alert: It was, both before the Bulgarians came and after. Toponyms are extremely difficult to change, and that’s why so many of them in the Balkans are Slavic. They were made a very long time ago and most never changed…
I guess you didn’t read my reply at all?
Yes he was, one Albanian man who defected and fought on the Serbian side, good for him. He was not the “reason we won”, he was nothing special, he wasn’t a “legendary hero”, he was one man. I thank him for fighting with us, but I don’t see what your point is that there was one good Albanian guy who helped Serbia one time? He isn’t a Serbian hero, he was a man who decided to be an ally…
The most idiotic statement I’ve seen on here in a while, and that’s saying a lot…
Congratulations, some random Albanian dude decided to switch sides 3 months before the Siege of Beograd to help out, and isn’t even that notable considering that his identity was mixed up with other people, so we don’t even know how useful he really was.. Yeah, what a “legendary hero” he was, we would have never taken Beograd back without him 😭
And trust me, if I was mayor of Beograd the first thing I would do is remove that hideous statue built by the freemason Meštrovic, who was Croatian actually. It’s unfit to watch over our city, that honour belongs to Stefan Lazarević, the first Serbian ruler to make Beograd the capital of Serbia 🇷🇸☦️
Yes, the actual people that lived there, who literally resisted and fought against the Ottomans for more than a hundred years until the fall of our last kingdom, and who were so desired as slaves that our genetics still leave a large trace in modern Turks today…
Stay jealous racist 😘
@youtooz@Safehouze_ New toys and action figures every couple of years but no new games? Just give us a remaster/remake at this point if you won’t give us a sequel, doing nothing at all is unacceptable…
Exactly, territorial origin is of little importance, and either way Southern Slavs carry anywhere from 40-70% so called Paleo-Balkan DNA. People have been moving and migrating all over the globe since the beginning of mankind, DNA isn’t as important as culture, and Serbs still carry culture that’s native to the Balkans that dates back 8000 years (see Vinča)
I’ll be honest, I’m mildly interested in my DNA, but besides the fact that I don’t intend on sending my intimate personal information to any private company, you seem to overestimate the overall relevance of DNA. DNA doesn’t prove anything that matters, like culture and the language that those people used… Maybe you’re just slow and don’t realize that, but now you know 👍
@Kimi_Kryeziu@DonbassSrpski If we were raped we would look like Turks. You know Turks come from Central Asia, right? Do you know what Central Asians look like? I don’t think you do. Turks look the way they do today because they took Serbian wives and stole Serbian children.