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There have been lots of reviews of the new Odyssey movie, and as an ancient historian, people are probably expecting me to weigh in. I saw the film yesterday afternoon with my brother and sister (on the regular screen, not IMAX). But first let me just say that if you are expecting me to assess the historical accuracy of the movie, you will be disappointed. When it comes to modern adaptations of ancient literature, historical accuracy is not very relevant. After all, the original is not historically accurate and reflects elements from different time periods, and indeed, while there may be a historical kernel of truth to Odysseus' voyage (though I doubt it), there is no evidence of it ever happening. No, it is far more appropriate for me simply to assess how well the film adheres to the original text. 1/
@MooseHamilton@TheMiddleborne I never said Sinon himself is crucial background info to Odysseus, but the story of the Trojan horse I believe is at least significant and demonstrates aspects of Odysseus' personality. It's also simply a wonderful piece of cinema to give to an audience familiar with the story.
@MooseHamilton@TheMiddleborne The story of the Trojan horse as told in the Aeneid happens to be the earliest surviving, most fleshed out version of the story, but many scholars believe it existed for many centuries before that via oral tradition.
@MooseHamilton@TheMiddleborne My dude, there are so many stories from Greek myth that are not specifically told by Homer, but are still canonical. The whole story of the Trojan horse is referenced but not recounted by Homer. Homer and Greek poets in general often based their works on oral traditions.
@MooseHamilton@TheMiddleborne Because he's a main character in the Trojan horse story, which is clearly a significant backstory to Odysseus that took place before the events of the Odyssey.
@MooseHamilton@TheMiddleborne Achilles is technically in the Odyssey, but Sinon is significant to the Trojan horse story which is iconic and crucial background info for Odysseus. It makes sense why they would cast Sinon but not Achilles. I see no reason to think Sinon "replaced" Achilles, though.
@_jeff_jaramillo@michaeljknowles So many characters from the Trojan war are missing, not just Achilles. Hector, Priam, Ajax, Nestor, and others are all missing. I don't see how it's fair or reasonable to say Sinon is the "stand-in" for Achilles. Achilles just isn't significant enough to the storyline.
@michaeljknowles They're two very different characters with different storylines. Achilles was not involved in the sacking of Troy, this was not a "recasting" of any kind.
@michaeljknowles@RickMen60968396 How does Sinon replace the role of Achilles? What the fuck are you talking about? They are totally different characters? Sinon is a minor character and wasn't even mentioned by Homer, but was in the Aeneid. You seem totally ignorant of Greek myth.