The impossible superabundance of the One is refined into intelligible, intellectual, spiritual, & material reality by the Gods who, by noetic vision, unfold themselves from the One and then turn their gaze back upon it in order to unfold all subsequent Forms from themselves,
If you pray to the gods, give incense, libations, or cakes as offerings, and make an effort to live by basic cardinal virtues and connect with people trying to do the same - congrats! You have successfully reconstructed paganism.
Anything extra, if it is truly necessary, will be revealed through signs.
The idea that we need to have a feature-complete institution for exactly reinstituting the Eleusinian mysteries airdropped to us before we even have communities asking for it is ridiculous, and it comes from a combination of our adversaries making facetious demands and tepid or timid potential converts latching onto a reason to dither and delay.
@Agicelaos I mean when I say that it's less to do with the theology (it's inferior) and more to do it's place in culture. As we well know even during Christianisation there were still many elements of the old religion in customs and culture. It's people sticking with what they know
An Excellent post that encapsulates my thoughts exactly. It's not about turning the clock back, it's about absorbing all that came before and opening the space up to proper worship of all the gods and moving past the blinkered approach the abrahamic religions put us in.
A thoughtful post, but I think it's working inside a framework that makes the answer invisible.
Take your own analogy. Worshipping the ancestral gods isn't "claiming you're related to your mother and not your father." It's Christianity that insists we must choose. Heritage is cumulative. The pagan revival doesn't skip the last 1,500 years; it inherits them all, Christianity included, the way Christianity itself inherited and absorbed what came before it. We're not turning back the clock.
Paganism never really died. It survived in folk practice, in the seasonal calendar. Philosophies like Platonism and Stoicism shaped Christian thought for centuries. State-sponsored paganism was suppressed for over a 1000 years, but almost the moment that suppression was complete, modernity began dissolving Christianity in turn. The goal of contemporary paganism isn’t to turn back the clock a millennium. It’s to begin worshipping our ancestral gods and traditions that were oppressed under Christianity. None of this requires an anachronistic reversion to a lost time.
This works fine in countries like Japan and China, where traditional religions coexist with later ones like Buddhism and Daoism. Christianity is the odd one out, along with Islam, when it insists that all other religions are Satanic and should be destroyed. The premise that religion is zero-sum, that one tradition is True and the rest false, has always been baked in. And it's exactly what's been failing for centuries. Christianity has to insist that your non-Christian neighbor worships demons. That was plausible when you never met a non-Christian in your life. It's much harder now.
Platonism offers a different picture, and a clearer one: a divine hierarchy that discloses itself to different peoples in different ways, all of it yoked back to the Good beyond being. Your neighbor isn't deceived by demons. He's bound to a particular chain of the divine reaching toward the same ultimate end, some routes more direct than others. It isn't a contest. So there's no need to reject what was good in Christianity. One can grant that Christ's teaching reshaped the West without granting that he was God.
If paganism is accused of asking us to forget the last 1000 years, Christianity asks us to forget the last 500. Both will be part of the West permanently. But fifteen centuries of dominance doesn't oblige us to remain Christian forever and I suspect the future looks more religiously plural not less.
@PunishedAbammon@emperorthesteve I swear 99% of this is just christians circlejerking over the same couple of strawmen. They have been solidly at it for years, it could almost be impressive
Most savage moment in the entire movie:
“The laws are meant to protect the victims… not the perpetrators.”
Then he looks the judge who let six boys walk after gang-raping a 14-year-old in the eyes and says:
“You are the cancer that is killing society.”
This clip is why Citizen Vigilante was banned in parts of Europe.
Too close to the truth?
14 people, including my wife and children celebrated the Midsummer blot to Thunder with the Hearth of Devon last night.
It was the 7th summer blot to Thor held by HOD.
Libations were poured, boasts were made, poetry recited, goat meat eaten, a dough idol burned, and good times were had!