"Was Israel just supposed to do nothing after 10/7?"
Was Palestine just supposed to do nothing after 1948, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977
@ArghhTom Yea, I know, lmao it's what I've been explaining but y'all just can't seem to wrap your heads around it
That's why the Big Bang is considered the beginning of the Universe in standard physics, physical reality (as we know it) breaks down at the Planck epoch
@jpvanhoy@Buckeye451973@dillyaali@BarelyProt And ignoring the fact you completely misunderstand what the Big Bang theory even is anyway, yall believe in nothing, so it's redundant to even debate with atheists, literally my original point
@jpvanhoy@Buckeye451973@dillyaali@BarelyProt We're saying if you have a lack of belief, that's one thing, but it's redundant to try convince people to stop believing in their religion when you openly admit to having no belief system and the scientific theories are all 1. Conclusionless. 2. Aren't contradictory to religion
@jpvanhoy@grok@Buckeye451973@dillyaali@BarelyProt Bc you are wrong due to you misunderstanding what the even Big Bang is
The Big Bang is widely accepted as the beginning of the Universe, a pre-Big Bang state is theorised as distinct from this universe with an entirely different physical reality
@jpvanhoy@Buckeye451973@dillyaali@BarelyProt Everyone knows what atheism lol
I'm explaining your irrationality to you
You openly admit there's no evidence for atheism, that all y'all have to use is conclusionless scientific theories that don't even prove atheism but y'all STILL get angry that people are religious
@jpvanhoy@ArghhTom@dillyaali@Buckeye451973@BarelyProt Sooo you created an argument in your head before I even made one and you've been arguing with your own hypothetical argument this entire time
Whew chile you just admitted to it
@jpvanhoy@Buckeye451973@dillyaali@BarelyProt Like you can't grasp that a pre-Big Bang state isn't considered apart of this Universe💀
And you're crashing out at people for innocently explaining this to you whew chile
@jpvanhoy@Buckeye451973@dillyaali@BarelyProt Whew chile so Wikipedia is your source
And anyways, you claim the Universe didn't begin at the Big Bang, but the standard view in physics is that the Universe did begin at the Big Bang lol which is what I've been explaining
@jpvanhoy@Buckeye451973@dillyaali@BarelyProt But regardless, all y'all have is a bunch of conclusionless theories that don't even remotely prove atheism
That's why it's so irrational for atheists to come at religious people like how y'all do
@jpvanhoy@Buckeye451973@dillyaali@BarelyProt Sooo you're now claiming the Big Bang isn't the beginning of the Universe now?
And I didn't see any sources for this claim you're making anyway lol
@jpvanhoy@Buckeye451973@dillyaali@BarelyProt You literally try to convince religious people to leave their religions soooo obv you do do that💀
And why would I need to cite sources when the Universe beginning at the Big Bang is the standard view in physics, just find it yourself whew chile I'm not your professor
@jpvanhoy@Buckeye451973@dillyaali@BarelyProt Girl no one cares that you're atheist, that's on you, we literally have no control over what you choose to believe
Our issue is with how you misrepresent science to lead people astray
@Buckeye451973@jpvanhoy@dillyaali@BarelyProt They try to frame the scientific studies of the mechanics of how the Universe works, came to be, and so on as "proof" against religion, which is the issue
Plus they don't even understand the theories themselves, the amount of times I've had to break them down to them
@Buckeye451973@jpvanhoy@ArghhTom@dillyaali@BarelyProt How time operates now began at the Big Bang, time may predate the Big Bang, but it would be an entirely different reality to this Universe
That's the standard position
The Pre-Big Bang state didn't even have matter