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[Wait Hear Me Out @Wait_hmo]

Whether we like it or not, a quick end to the Marathon experiment is the best chance we have at seeing more Destiny in the future, be that Destiny 3 or a Destiny 2 revival.

Full opinion in the article below.

https://t.co/WdQ7oHHVRn

[Wait Hear Me Out @Wait_hmo]

As part of the conversations around Destinys playerbase, I have been seeing the 72,449,762 lifetime players thrown around. Is it possible to breakdown based on hours played?
How many over 100,500,1000 hours?
How many under 10,50 hours?
For example I know my wife downloaded it and played for like 5 hours and that’s it.

Based on timewastedondestiny I assume the data is there for this. Any thoughts?

It would be interesting to know if the number of players over 100/200 hours is 5 million or 40 million. Did the shadowkeep free to play change over inflate these numbers with low hours players or are there a ton of high(ish) hours players. Thanks!

[Lord Charizard @LordCharizard33]

Almost 11pm on the east coast and the message is clear.

#WeWantDestiny3

[My name is Byf (Lore Daddy) @MyNameIsByf]

Greenlight D3 already.

[Wait Hear Me Out @Wait_hmo]

I did not expect playing override 5 years after launch would get me so in my feels. Those beyond light seasons had so much sauce

[Wait Hear Me Out @Wait_hmo]

I’ve been thinking about this a lot, it’s also important that this update is for the hardcore players not new players. This is not new content, it’s just a love letter to big fans of the game with hundreds of hours in it. All the same problems as before for new lights are still here.

The reason I say this is think about how many people bought D2 in 2017, enjoyed it, moved onto other games and never came back. Like that traditional gamer that plays buys and enjoys new games as they come out and moved onto the next thing. Many of them never returned after a month or two of launch D2 even if they liked it.

That “new game comes out let’s hop on” crowd is who a Destiny 3 would need to be successful at launch. I’m not saying they’d get those people I have no idea, but this update certainly was never going to draw them back in.

But if there’s 1-3 million players that are relatively hardcore or nostalgic or atleast interested and connected enough to the community to come back, that’s not a bad baseline to start with. A lot of games would die for that, but certainly a D3 would need more than that

[cbro @D2cbro]

Personally I think daily/weekly/monthly players overlaid with total playtime are the most relevant baseline metrics on game health.

Concurrent is difficult to measure and not very relevant. It's cool Steam gives us that count but people are too obsessed with it.

[Wait Hear Me Out @Wait_hmo]

I’m pretty sure that first clip is just a Destiny 2 pyramid. Looks like I’m about to walk into Macrocosm

[Farzam @farzam_plays]

Control Remontant's art direction is so fucking trippy like only Remedy could think of the things that I've seen in this game

[Wait Hear Me Out @Wait_hmo]

If Destiny games and expansions were financial disappointments, what wouldn’t be a financial disappointment?

I’d rather invest in a successful and moderately profitable sure thing than shoot for the moon with concord and end up with nothing

[Wait Hear Me Out @Wait_hmo]

The reason I think we will see more Destiny, at some point, is that making a new live service in the current world is a shot in the dark.

Regardless of quality, you never know if it will be huge,decent stable player base, or just flop immediately.

If funding Destiny 3 is a risk (which it is), I can’t imagine funding anything else Bungie could make is less risky.

At least with Destiny 3 you are starting with a built in player base as a floor and hope it succeeds above that

[Wait Hear Me Out @Wait_hmo]

To be fair to Marathon, it’s kind of insane strategy to announce and implement the end of a beloved, 12 year franchise in Destiny the same week you do a new season plus free week in Marathon to increase player counts.

Really knee capped it’s moment in the limelight

[Wait Hear Me Out @Wait_hmo]

@IREWolfman @blueberriesGG To be fair that is only the steam concurrents number, peak concurrents across pc and console was around 400k and total players for the day was at least 800k!

[IGN @IGN]

Destiny 2 is seeing a massive resurgence with the release of its final update. https://t.co/qsNZ4XMsvO

#IGNSummerOfGaming

[PC Gamer @pcgamer]

Destiny 2's final update crushes the Edge of Fate expansion's Steam concurrents peak https://t.co/0Q1n3HTGsY

[Austin Jarus @jarus_austin]

So Shattered Cycle in December? @Destiny2Team

[Saltagreppo @SaltagreppoD2]

Exotic mission was peak, easily the best in years. WHY IS THIS GAME ENDING AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Wait Hear Me Out @Wait_hmo]

Over 400 thousand people are playing Destiny 2 right now, are you?

#WeWantDestiny3 #SaveDestiny
@PlayStation @Bungie

[Destiny 2 Team @Destiny2Team]

Thank you to everyone signing in to join us for Monument of Triumph.

We've seen quite a few fireteams reuniting, groups memorizing Pantheon patterns to prep for Saturday's gauntlet, and many asking for clues about [REDACTED].

Those nailbiter SRL finishes? And the drip with all this new armor?

What a wild day so far.

Keep it up.

[Wait Hear Me Out @Wait_hmo]

@A_dmg04 Never better! This update is awesome is going to lay a great groundwork for future expansions…. Right?!

[Abaddon @Abaddon_D2]

The new lore books that were meant to be for Shattered Cycle are SO PEAK. THE LODI LORE IS SO GOOD MAN HIS STORY IS AWESOME.
@lobrocop I know you were going to give such a great performance
@alisontheperson you and the narrative team cooked up some of the best lore. Thank you

[Wait Hear Me Out @Wait_hmo]

Super important to note the difference between daily active players and concurrents.

At its worst over the past 6 months there were days with 160k over the whole day, not concurrents

To be at 360k concurrents before the end of the workday is great, I’ll be curious what the DAU is today

[Charlemagne, Warmind @Charlemagne_Bot]

Do you think they heard us?

Follow along at https://t.co/ykxuKXGbgy. We have enough data to accurately estimate the concurrents and the numbers are pretty damn good...