@ultimatepunchin@DarkNarcist2@space_age_frag@ChaelSonnen Lerone Murphy and Mosvar are both objectively not better all time wins than Charles. Charles is a top 30 OAT fighter, former champ, long time fighter. Lerone is still unproven and Mosvar is good but not dangerous. He also pulled out of the ilia fight originally so that’s on him
@LaughLair@RedCorner_MMA Max genuinely has the worst fanbase in the ufc i can’t be convinced otherwise yall must be equally as brain damaged as him lmao
@SenorBasado@lawsonsolettt@FredorichLXIX@RedCorner_MMA Because this arbitrary scoring system is better? The judges were right on that one, ilia landed the heavier shots. If anything it should’ve been 1-1 going into the 3rd. Damage is scored more than total strikes now lol
@ultimatepunchin@DarkNarcist2@space_age_frag@ChaelSonnen Who cares. The only actual issue with champs moving up is that they hold up their division by not vacating. Ilia vacated. Going up and beating Charles is more impressive than staying at FW, puts him on track to join the potential goat conversation. Did what Volk couldn’t.
@Tequila_papi863@qpe But there are plenty of cases of stars fighting down the ranks after a loss. Dustin vs BSD and Justin vs Fiziev 2 both come to mind.
@Tequila_papi863@qpe The skill gap between the top five and 15-5 is pretty massive in every division. Those are the tune up opportunities, if you can’t win those you shouldn’t be ranked high, and we don’t want top guys fighting unranked dudes, that clogs up movement in the division
@aryan545912@MigClass It’d be more challenging to time those correctly throwing them naked, Holloway is faster than Charles and could barely land them.
@postimothy @PaulCraigSZN@CutGuyMMA Emmet was still ranked 5 and we didn’t know where Bryce was at yet (although losing to Topuria and Silva don’t make you trash)
I’m just saying context and the fact that Emmett was top 5 are important. Much much different than paddy’s situation
@swurvcreates@DovySimuMMA Before you respond again, my next response will be “argue with the wall,” I’m not going to debate with someone who tries to gas light me into thinking Islam is a great striker lmao
But have a nice day tho
@swurvcreates@DovySimuMMA Islam subbed Charles but only after rocking him, impressive but different than just grappling. Islam got clipped by moicano who is not a good striker. You can look at him and tell he’s just a decent striker, and yes his takedown threat is why his striking works, that’s basic shit
@swurvcreates@DovySimuMMA Ilia out grappled Charles, out struck Charles, Volk, Max, all without a massive reach advantage. The only thing he doesn’t do is throw head or body kicks, he is super effective with leg kicks. His striking is far more effective than Islam’s