From The Insiders on @NFLNetwork: #Packers QB Jordan Love and his private QB coach Steve Calhoun join me and @StaceyDales to discuss their camp, Green Bay’s offseason, and the process behind Love’s success.
@JordanGrow17@LaffertyDan88@MarkOldacres@wendellfp My guy, those percentiles for last year literally say he’s a top 7 QB in almost every category. I don’t know how anyone can pin the result of that Bear game on Love… you’re telling on yourself with that one.
NFL QBs usually don't develop much.
They usually take 10-20 games to adjust to the NFL, but once they adjust, they typically remain what they are for years. After 5+ years of starting experience they usually improve mentally again, but their athleticism starts to wane.
Some QBs are exceptions. Josh Allen famously improved from a raw, uncoached talent into a superstar. A lot of that was because he simply (1) never got any worthwhile coaching in community college or Wyoming and (2) never had ANYONE to throw to.
Dak Prescott totally re-worked his mechanics AND made dramatic mental leaps after a very dumbed-down college offense.
The list of QBs that significantly improved in the NFL doesn't continue much further.
Caleb Williams improved his pocket presence a little in 2025, but most of that was simply having a great OL and an amazing offensive system that gave him ample, easy answers.
This is who Caleb Williams is. He is a below-average but exciting QB. He can operate a system well enough to hang around in the league, but he is no star.
He is very clearly the weakest link on a stacked and brilliant Bears offense, but he will always have a few sick highlights that throw his public perception waaaay out of whack.
Ben Johnson will ensure that Chicago always has a top 10 offense, but we have probably already seen Caleb Williams' ceiling: a mostly bad QB that can salvage it all with a few huge plays, much like DeShaun Watson or Kyler Murray. Two guys whose media shine wore off pretty quickly.
@DerrickEvans4WV@alearcticwolff I mean… it literally isn’t to celebrate our country… it’s for DJT’s b-day… why else would a celebration for 250 be in the middle of June…?
@ChiTownTez@NflOutdated@ESPNMilwaukee lol… so it’s only a coincidence that the Seahawks and Patriots were the first and third healthiest teams in the league last year, huh?
@33lunasea@radyniechotmai1@NflOutdated@ESPNMilwaukee lol. I literally stated a bunch of facts of things that happened…saying “they didn’t win a game without Micah is missing an awful lot of context for how good the team was. Which considering these guys are talking about this year, when all those other pieces are healthy, matters.
@NflOutdated@Beastmaster1978 Yes… after he got injured… and Zach Tom got injured… and Tucker Kraft got injured… and Devonte Wyatt got injured… and Jordan Love was concussed for two games… and they literally played 3rd stringers for the entirety of the season finale. But yes, you are technically right.