@FerreiraMa71724@SissyRibs Gaslighting é uma forma de manipulação psicológica em que dados e fatos são sistematicamente distorcidos para fazer a vítima duvidar da própria memória, percepção ou sanidade. O objetivo principal é invalidar a experiência do outro para assumir o controle da narrativa.
@gagagiigii Deve vir aí com o episódio da festa de aniversário dele... Mas acho que esse apego evitativo vem muito da negligência dos pais, somada à perda de figuras importantes na vida dele.
Ele é só um adulto disfuncional criado pra normalizar relações de poder e hierarquia e, sem querer, contamina todos os seus relacionamentos (amorosos ou não) justamente pela falta de responsabilidade, porque sabe que vão sempre passar pano ou consertar as coisas pra ele.
@gagagiigii Ele claramente cresceu achando que é normal demonstrar amor dessa forma errática, em que, nos poucos momentos que tem, é muito intenso e, logo em seguida, a pessoa foge de você.
@gagagiigii Inclusive, acho que seria interessante se você adicionasse isso na thread, porque essa barreira que ele coloca no relacionamento com a Lacete TAMBÉM parece ser pela forma como ele encara o amor dos pais dele. Gente, ele diz que a última vez que viu os pais foi num programa...
@gagagiigii E, pelo pouco que a gente sabe dos pais dele (tipo pagar pra Renata ir visitar o filho DELA), eu tenho quase certeza de que foi um hábito adquirido e internalizado deles. No final, o Mateus é vítima também.
Isso não faz dele uma pessoa ruim. Eu realmente enxergo muita ingenuidade nele, mas o problema é a falta de limites que as pessoas ao redor dão, justamente pelo relacionamento tóxico que ele acaba criando na intenção de ser sempre o patrão legal.
@alienkat92@coaIsack@livscourt@pyrrhasnachos@boneysoups Because you said the reason she's bullied is for being ugly and that if she were pretty it wouldn't be on the same scale. Just read the other replies, don't play dense.
@alienkat92@coaIsack@livscourt@pyrrhasnachos@boneysoups when you can literally cast a fat AND pretty actress to play an ND character without changing anything about the plot. Because AGAIN, I said nothing about whether she's fat or not.
@alienkat92@coaIsack@livscourt@pyrrhasnachos@boneysoups Back to the saga where I have to repeat for the thousandth time that I never said a single word about her not being allowed to be portrayed as fat. I just think it's lazy to force the “ugly” thing so the bullying "makes sense" visually,
@coaIsack@pyrrhasnachos@alienkat92@livscourt@boneysoups Sorry, English isn't my first language and I'm just translating directly from Portuguese. Over here, “person” (pessoa) is a grammatically feminine noun, so I was just matching the gender of the word itself, not referring to your personal pronouns.
@pyrrhasnachos@coaIsack@alienkat92@livscourt@boneysoups This person is kind of nuts, besides writing 500 paragraphs she's convinced I brought up weight when my entire point was just that she's not ugly lol. I've explained multiple times that I specified facial features, but you know what, let her just argue with herself.
@coaIsack@alienkat92@livscourt@pyrrhasnachos@boneysoups I literally specified FACIAL FEATURES in my tweet. I entered this discussion precisely because I reject the fat = ugly narrative. Carrie looked stunning at prom with the exact same body because being fat didn't make her ugly, she was just abused and neglected.
@coaIsack@alienkat92@livscourt@pyrrhasnachos@boneysoups Yeah, but unlike the bullies, I don't equate fat with ugly, and I even specified it was about her FACE. I just find the UGLINESS trope so lazy. As if a girl can't be pretty and still get targeted for having different behavior, as if that doesn't happen EVERY SINGLE DAY.
@coaIsack@alienkat92@livscourt@pyrrhasnachos@boneysoups You quoted a tweet that never mentioned weight and forced your own interpretation onto it. I was talking about facial features and social alienation. Equating ugliness with being fat is your own internal bias, stop blaming me for it.
@coaIsack@pyrrhasnachos@alienkat92@livscourt@boneysoups Except I literally specified it was about having a model-like face, because my point was strictly about ugliness. Being fat has nothing to do with that. You're forcing a connection that was never there just to argue with yourself.
@coaIsack@alienkat92@livscourt@pyrrhasnachos@boneysoups You keep twisting this into ND vs fatphobia when that’s not what I said at all. My point was always that framing her bullying around her social alienation is a way better narrative than relying on the lazy “ugly trope”. Stop putting words in my mouth.
@coaIsack@pyrrhasnachos@alienkat92@livscourt@boneysoups You're literally arguing with voices in your head because I never said ND people can't be fat. My whole point was just that Carrie isn't inherently ugly and that bullying stems from social disconnect, not physical appearance. Stop making things up.
@coaIsack@alienkat92@livscourt@pyrrhasnachos@boneysoups I never claimed ND people can’t be fat. My point is that Carrie isn't inherently ugly, because being fat doesn't make someone ugly. The obsession with reducing her entire character to her body shape just to explain the bullying sounds a lot like the bullies in the book.
@wrecca_ pq você usou off campus como exemplo sendo que os livros são um lixo centrado em sexo? só na série da prime que prestou. logo o exemplo que você deu é irrelevante e quem concorda com isso é idiota