The Wrong Kennedy

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[The Wrong Kennedy @wrong_kennedy]

Hillsborough stadium had a long history of dangerous overcrowding incidents, including near misses in the 1988, 1987 & 1981 FA Cup Semi Finals.

The deaths in 1989 weren’t the first crush deaths there & 1989 wasn’t even the first disaster at Hillsborough.

Here is the history: -

[Abigail Rudkin @rudkin_abigail]

Is everyone in Liverpool getting Spanish lessons and I’m not getting invited or what

[LFChistory.net @LFChistory]

In remembrance of the 39 supporters who lost their lives at the Heysel Stadium on May 29th 1985... May them rest in peace.

[Jay McKenna @JayMcKenna87]

A more fitting and appropriate memorial to the victims of the Heysel disaster.

And good on the club and staff who heard the feedback from @spiritofshankly and listened and acted 👏

[The Wrong Kennedy @wrong_kennedy]

@LouiseRawAuthor 20th July 1976

[The Wrong Kennedy @wrong_kennedy]

@B2KOP Yeah, just got an automated reply from another crypto account, which appears to control the account now

[lan Byrne MP @IanByrneMP]

Today I had shivers down my spine seeing the banners and artwork of Peter Carney and @GaryRogersArt at the #RealTruthLegacyProject.

The talent they both possess to create such powerful and moving pieces never ceases to amaze me.

Thank you both for your incredible support for our project to educate children about Hillsborough and state cover-ups.

A beautiful tribute to the great Phil Hammond was also featured today ❤️

#JFT97
#RealTruthLegacyProject

[The Wrong Kennedy @wrong_kennedy]

@keoghser80 Thanks v much

[The Wrong Kennedy @wrong_kennedy]

The deaths at Hillsborough were not caused by pushing.

The spectator pens were so overcrowded that no one could push anywhere with any material force, with most peoples’ arms trapped immobile to their sides due to ‘vice-like’ pressure.

The failure of the badly corroded crush barrier (barrier 252a) at about 3:05pm caused a ‘progressive crowd collapse’ (see the graphic below) which triggered the deaths and serious injuries

Incidentally, around 42 of the 97 who died were standing towards the back of the terraces, largely in area behind the failed crush barrier

[The Wrong Kennedy @wrong_kennedy]

That’s true and probably because some people just don’t like Liverpool, the club and the city.

They can dislike it all they want, but the objective facts are sacred.

That said, there is a disturbing trend of blaming and harassing victims/ bereaved of disasters, school shootings, murders and terrorist attacks etc like Sandy Hook, the Manchester Arena bombing, and Grenfell

Arena bomb survivors win conspiracy harassment case https://t.co/L31Ou6CrU0

[The Wrong Kennedy @wrong_kennedy]

@SimpleSocial1st Yep, not bothering with him anymore

[The Wrong Kennedy @wrong_kennedy]

@issacc_hunt It’s in the thread

I engaged with you in good faith, but you are simply too stupid to spend any further time talking to, so have a block you dumb fuck

[The Wrong Kennedy @wrong_kennedy]

@issacc_hunt Read the thread

[The Wrong Kennedy @wrong_kennedy]

Crowds have to managed, otherwise they become dangerous, whatever the makeup of the crowd.

That is the case where it is crowds at Trafalgar Square at New Year, a Who or Rolling Stones gig, Stalin’s funeral, Astroworld in Florida, a pilgrimage to Mecca, or people sheltering from an air raid at Bethnal Green tube

[The Wrong Kennedy @wrong_kennedy]

This is barrier 252a, which often used in photos depicting the aftermath of the disaster

The barrier dated from the 1930s and would have failed cursory safety inspections, had any been carried out

[The Wrong Kennedy @wrong_kennedy]

@bobstev53681908 Thanks v much - appreciated

[The Wrong Kennedy @wrong_kennedy]

Fact check…

There is no evidence that Liverpool fans arrived late at Hillsborough in 1989

The crowd build up outside the Leppings Lane had become problematic by 2:15pm

And by 2:40pm the build up had become so critical that the exit gates had to be opened to relive the pressure of the crowd in the Leppings Lane notorious bottleneck

As there were only 7 turnstiles for 10,100 terrace tickets, fans would have had to arrived 2 hours before kickoff to all be admitted in time.

Simple maths on the flow rate would have shown that the turnstiles were never going to cope

2:15pm for a 3pm kick off is by no means late.

What time do you normally get to the ground Bob?

[bob stevens @bobstev53681908]

@wrong_kennedy My Q's. Was there a rush to get in? Facts: 7 turnstiles. 24,000 tickets allocated, apparently. Many fabs arrived late.

[The Wrong Kennedy @wrong_kennedy]

The 7 turnstiles for 10,100 LFC fans required a flow rate more than double the maximum allowed in the Green Guide (safety guidelines for public events)

By contrast, Forest had 42 turnstiles for 21,000 on the Kop terraces.

It was never going to work, and the crowd build up was perfectly foreseeable just by using simple maths

[The Wrong Kennedy @wrong_kennedy]

@bigdutch7 @bobstev53681908 I’m sure he’ll correct me if I’m wrong but I think he came round after extended correspondence

[The Wrong Kennedy @wrong_kennedy]

1. At Hillsborough, fans were so tightly packed in the Leppings Lane concourse that nobody could charge anywhere. The exit gates were opened at police direction to relieve overcrowding.

2. There’s no evidence of any volume of ticketless fans at Hillsborough as the Health & Safety Executive, consulting engineers and police counts found that there were fewer fans on the terraces than ticket sold - see the analysis heard in court, which established that ticketless fans were not a factor in the disaster, in the post following this

3. The 2016 Hillsborough Inquest jury found *unanimously* that fans did not cause the disaster, nor even contribute to causing it

4. This footage is wheeled out regularly and always attracts comments like yours, but the big picture is that around 100,000 Merseysiders went to Wembley that day, stood side by side peacefully on the terraces, and there were only a handful of arrests inside and outside the stadium, and far fewer than other finals

[Mark Hooper @mjhoops45_mark]

@FootballInT80s So- Liverpool fans didn’t charge the turnstiles to gain illegal entry at Hillsboro but risk a big fall at Wembley?

[The Wrong Kennedy @wrong_kennedy]

@bigdutch7 @bobstev53681908 I don’t think he’s saying that BigD, rather that the police covered up

[bob stevens @bobstev53681908]

@wrong_kennedy Imo he knew it would put council and ground in the spotlight as design problem. He's under massive pressure. Result cover up negligence police pressured to lie, pay some people off. Gov told claims against police worth millions. Gov bars disclosure for 25 yrs.