@aeutius@DShyKnock Ok now I just see you have very little knowledge on the topic. Last thing I'll say to you because you clearly just don't know what you're talking about, but Caedrel is contractually obligated to show every single sponsor and can't turn off the riot broadcast if sponsors are on.
@aeutius@DShyKnock Please man look at the words I'm typing. I've never once said that sponsors are the main revenue driver of Riot anywhere. My point is that if Caedrel leaves which is the original prompt, then the sponsor side of things take a bigger loss proportionally than skins.
@aeutius@DShyKnock argument is based off what will happen if Caedrel leaves the scene and the main thing there is viewers and sponsors leave. Skins obviously would go down as well, but in no way near the capacity of sponsors.
@aeutius@DShyKnock In what way have I defended riot at all? It's super obvious that the main point for the esports is to draw in players and then sell skins, but another very important part is the league also being a product that brings in money via sponsors (Like the NBA or NFL). This whole
@aeutius@DShyKnock Can you give me any source or information on how little these sponsorships make for league esports? Then can you give me any source on how much skin sale revenue is generated from league esports. You're just talking out of your ass man.
@aeutius@DShyKnock But do you understand if Caedrel leaves then the % of sponsors goes down way more than the % of skin sales, even if skin sales is the main business?
@aeutius@DShyKnock Here's a source that tells you that esports is close to being sustainable by itself just through sponsors. If Caedrel leaves viewers leave and then sponsors leave. Skin sales mean jack shit here.
https://t.co/daH62LsdYp
@aeutius@DShyKnock Skin sales don’t really matter as much in this case compared to the viewership and sponsorships. A lot of money is made via sponsors and less viewers probably would mean brands wouldn’t care as much as putting their name on the product. The skin market for league is mainly china
@Zaralolll@kevinrw96@louaahh@chovygoat I mean I would still say the order is still Zeus Kiin Bin, but you both brought up rather moot points in needing a carry top and Zeus being eliminated. Would say that Kiin and Zeus are interchangeable based off the other 4 players on the team though.
@Zaralolll@kevinrw96@louaahh@chovygoat Do you think Dhokla is a better top laner that Zeus because he's in quarters? Cherry picking you need a carry top is indeed stupid, but it's not absurd to say that Bin and Zeus are better carry tops than Kiin. Kiin can be argued as a better top laner because he's more flexable.
@Juarez_Hector84@bestqaqevermiso@MakkroLoL I think Fizz could potentially run no flash, Ignite/Exh to win the lane into Jayce with how sticky he is and long the lane is. Panth just needs to wait for a gank and then Flash W on the Jayce and Jayce hopefully dies which give LYON snowballing chances from top.
@Juarez_Hector84@bestqaqevermiso@MakkroLoL killing pressure on the Ori and Caitlyn which LYON requires for the fights and game to be won. What pick there do you think would be better for LYON. I think everyone with known data matchups in pro play just completely lose as well, so you may aswell gamble on odd picks.
@Juarez_Hector84@bestqaqevermiso@MakkroLoL My argument on Fizz and Pantheon completely relies on the fact that they don't go down 20-30 cs like Ksante does and you think they would so how can I possibly convince you of my argument. I've said if Fizz and Pantheon get accelerated with gold they provide real and notable
@Juarez_Hector84@bestqaqevermiso@MakkroLoL Yes bro what? If you give yourself better chances to win the game then obviously it's a good choice. Fizz and Pantheon would obviously be trash choices for Dhokla because the man can't pilot them, but Ksante deadass seals your fate rather than possibly giving you an out
@Juarez_Hector84@bestqaqevermiso@MakkroLoL The only data we have would be solo queue where on Patch 16.20 Fizz has a 56% winrate into Jayce when they lane against each other in Diamond+. Please link your opgg and I'll belittle you all you want as well. You simply see the game differently than me and that's fine.
@Juarez_Hector84@bestqaqevermiso@MakkroLoL Okay if I just say. Yea Fizz and Pantheon just hard stomp Jayce in the lane what would be your rebuttal. They stack up the first 3 waves and get a cheater recall for an item advantage what do you possibly say without it just looking like my argument
@Juarez_Hector84@bestqaqevermiso@MakkroLoL Are you rank 1 challenger or something since you want to argue this. I can assure you any master/GM opinion also are just completely baseless like mine when you talk about pro play since the level is just astronomically higher.
@Juarez_Hector84@bestqaqevermiso@MakkroLoL like you said it's not really a matchup that has been explored. The same reason you can also say that Jayce doesn't completely get whatever he wants going like he does with Ksante. Nobody knows how Jayce/Fizz/Pantheon happens in a pro play scenario, but I think when I envision
@Juarez_Hector84@bestqaqevermiso@MakkroLoL I've never claimed that Fizz or Pantheon win LYON the game, but they certainly give better odds than Ksante does. LYON already lost the draft when they allowed Jayce and Ori to go through. It's entirely impossible to know how the top lane matchups go with Pantheon and Fizz since