@_celia_bedelia_ Uhhhh no. It’s because alleged means that they could be not guilty, in a court of law. We don’t know yet everything that happened. And it’s okay to say that.
Ok so a few thoughts on the Cornell 7. I have seen a few attys speak up but overwhelmingly the discourse is that they are guilty of rape without anyone having the full facts.
Personally, I find the men’s behavior gross. I would say that to a jury even if I was representing one of them. As the mother of 2 boys, I am trying my best to raise them so they never would make a post or respond in any way like these men did and to help women that appear too intoxicated.
But as a criminal defense attorney, I need to point out that not all terrible behavior is a crime. And we don’t have all the facts yet. Attorney statements or a civil petition is not evidence. Those are carefully worded to support one side. Saying someone is “pressured” into taking drugs or having a threesome is not the same as being drugged without your knowledge or forced.
The message in the group chat, again while disgusting, is not criminal in itself. It does not indicate she was unconscious or uncooperative. There are women that willingly consent to have sex with multiple men at a time.
I’m not condoning the behavior or victim blaming. A thorough investigation should have been done- and not just by the university which has an incentive to minimize allegations of sexual assault on campus. Maybe additional evidence will support filing a criminal case. Or maybe it won’t. But more information is needed to make that decision.
I understand you guys are upset think you should stop posting their photos with that word as legally they’re not. They haven’t been proven to be. There hasn’t been a criminal investigation yet and there hasn’t been a lawsuit yet that will both reveal everything that happened.
Guys stop wtf? I understand you’re angry about the allegations, but you’re calling people’s JOBS? You’re calling all these numbers and sharing them, but as of now these are only ALLEGATIONS. And they haven’t been proven to be legally true.
@_celia_bedelia_ So you’re just calling them rapists. She could be lying, or she could be telling the truth. That is not to say she’s definitely lying, but we don’t know all of these evidence and facts just yet.
@_celia_bedelia_ Okay but they haven’t been proven to be rapists. These are allegations. This is something that should be handled criminally and in court and then we’ll know, yet people are calling people’s jobs. It’s getting out of hand.
I understand these are allegations and they haven’t been proven true. However, can we say that they may not be true, which is true, without calling her a liar?
However, let’s not just ASSUME they are as these are allegations and call names online without knowing EXACTLY everything all the evidence n what happened. Like people are getting out of hand with this. Wait until it’s proven what they did. I mean people reposting numbers