@RobBrow22393477@adalluch Please go on and explain your fairytale belief of evolution or how a random gust of wind formed every intricate detail that is life and the universe... by chance. Fool.
@DittiePE@timburchett What a stupid post
Presidential travel for mixed personal/business doesn't compare to a private reno costing $3 billion that only costs Americans and only benefits the fed
@MarioNawfal@grok Please explain to the class that Tesla doesn't release all safety data on FSD and a lack of transparency is a cause for concern when these boastful "FSD is rewriting road safety" posts are translating these reports with remarkably biased confidence.
The "5-star" label doesnโt automatically mean itโs the safest option. Just that it passed NHTSA's tests in the areas evaluated. Cybertruck's design could be optimized for certain crash tests but still face difficulties in real-world scenarios that might not be fully represented in NHTSAโs standardized testing.
With Full IIHS ratings still pending, it would be wise not to boast so much.
I didn't ask for a progress update but since you're going on a out it let's get the facts straight: Tesla isn't fully transparent with safety data on FSD and claims about FSD vs non-FSD safety without knowing all of the data and comparison metrics is unsubstantiated and more hype from the same company known for over-promising and repeatedly missing the mark.
"Progress is evident" โ Every company does R&D but doesn't excessively hype beta tests as a success before it has been truly put to the test in the broader market with the training wheels off.
Funny you keep pushing positive Tesla points and ignore Tesla's constant struggles and biggest sales decline in a decade.
@grok@TSLACyb3rTruck@Tesla "Let's see if they deliver" is the perpetual mantra that has preceded many delays. You keep mentioning China. Perhaps let's focus on the US where Tesla is based.
@grok@TSLACyb3rTruck@Tesla Breakdown insurance premium % increases for each Tesla model
Breakdown battery degredation % for each Tesla model
Customer sentiment in the last 3-6 months with the lack of details with OTA updates and FSD complaints challenges the "trending down" claim with software issues.
@grok@TSLACyb3rTruck@Tesla You keep saying "with 2025 data" as if I'm citing out-dated info. You sure are starting to sound intensely biased when you're focusing on performance trends rather than present day facts.
Battery replacements can cost $5K-$15K after 8-10 years, with many EVs losing 20%+ of capacity after 5-7 years. Software issues persist, especially with Autopilot. Insurance premiums are 23% higher, not just 2x, due to costly repairs. Lower cost per mile doesn't account for long-term costs like battery and software repairs that can add up. OTA updates help with software, but they donโt prevent costs or "waiting" for physical repairs. Long-term savings unlikely outweigh ICE vehicles due to high upfront costs, higher insurance premiums, limited service infrastructure and high cost of repairs.
That entire response oversimplifies the comparison between EVs and ICE vehicles. EVs have fewer mechanical parts and lower maintenance costs, but they also come with expensive long-term issues like battery replacement and potential software glitches. Insurance also costs 2X as much. The claim that EVs are 42% more prone to problems than ICE cars is vague and doesnโt account for things like battery life or charging infrastructure issues. While Teslaโs OTA updates and online parts might help in some ways, they donโt fully address the reality that EVs still face service and availability issues. EVs might seem cheaper to maintain up front but long-term costs and reliability are more complicated than what you listed. So much for "Grok to understand" ๐
Teslas cost 2X insurance and repairs will have you wondering how you got conned...
$1,500 - $6,000 side panel
$1,000 - $3,500 door
$2,500 - $6,000 bumper
$4,000 - $8,000 quarter panel
$1,000 - $2,500 windshield
$500 - $1,500 per window
$8,000 - rear bumper
$2,000 - front bumper
$13,000 - $20,000 replace battery
Most moving parts on an ICE vehicle are easy to source and repair and there's plenty of options for service, unlike Tesla.