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[Magister @yupboyy]

@AnarchyRising42 @randyblockin @Zbaby14af @WISN12News Delusional

[Magister @yupboyy]

@RyanMReeves Orders received loud and clear boss

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@TheOmniLiberal I think that if your priority is simply to stack as much money as possible, their perspective is fair. If your priority is to become a more well-rounded individual, your perspective is fair.

[Magister @yupboyy]

@FM_113 @autocorrect2_0 Are you seriously suggesting OC spray/taser would have been superior options with a knife raised and pointed at the child she would eventually come to slash in the head? Are you seriously suggesting that the cops justification is his own safety, instead of the child’s?

[Magister @yupboyy]

@Neo_7077 @OkieFBfan @Astronimus3 @esjesjesj That’s a great question, one that pointing to God answers as satisfactorily as saying “I do not know”.

[Magister @yupboyy]

@Neo_7077 @OkieFBfan @Astronimus3 @esjesjesj I haven’t invoked the concept of luck once, let alone attributed those facts to it.

[Magister @yupboyy]

@Neo_7077 @OkieFBfan @Astronimus3 @esjesjesj The second is, citing God as the explanation has no explanatory power over and above that of naturalistic explanations. Ultimately, the theist has to make arguments or appeals which the naturalist also can make. (If God is eternal, why can’t the Universe be eternal?).

[Magister @yupboyy]

@Neo_7077 @OkieFBfan @Astronimus3 @esjesjesj I know where you’re going with this. Two things. The first is that we only know of “creation” akin to that of creating a cake. Sure, intelligence or a mind seems to be necessary for “creation” of that sort, but not creation ex nihilo.

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@OkieFBfan @Astronimus3 @esjesjesj But surely you are noticing that these are two entirely different sorts of explanation? One of which I am arguing fails to be any sort of meaningful explanation at all.

[Magister @yupboyy]

@OkieFBfan @Astronimus3 @esjesjesj My argument is solely that citing God as creator of all being and asserting that has equal or greater explanatory power than anything else is not the case. I’m saying you’re actually in the same boat as me in answering “I do not know”.

[Magister @yupboyy]

@OkieFBfan @Astronimus3 @esjesjesj “How did you make that cake” “well I’m a baker and I can!”. Do we see how that is not answering what is really being asked?

[Magister @yupboyy]

@OkieFBfan @Astronimus3 @esjesjesj I think this demonstrated my point. “I do know how God did it, he did it because he is God and he can!”. Notice how that is an entirely different mode of explanation than a cake recipe. There is precisely nothing explanatory positive about the former “explanation”.

[Magister @yupboyy]

@OkieFBfan @Astronimus3 @esjesjesj The cake analogy is better applied to arguments for intelligent design. That said, saying “God did it because he can because he is God”, is tantamount to saying “I don’t know”. I can demonstrate, step by step, how to make a cake. Same cannot be said for creation from *nothing*.

[Magister @yupboyy]

@OkieFBfan @Astronimus3 @esjesjesj Per the Christian’s own account of creation, God created everything ex nihilo, out of nothing. A cake is made out of pre-existing materials which are rearranged and manipulated.

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@scantierrr I’m not sure it’s completely different though. I think his general theological message is probably what was generally said. He probably was a carpenter, I see no reason to doubt that. He probably did hail from Nazareth (that would be sorta ridiculous in their time and place) etc

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@scantierrr There are good reasons beyond pleasing Christian’s. It’s more incredible to think that the gospels and Pauline letters utterly contrived the entire series of events and ran with it, with decades of time and hundreds of miles in between these communities’ writings.

[Magister @yupboyy]

@scantierrr I think the confusion here is what is meant by the “real” Jesus. I think it is perfectly reasonable and actually intellectually honest to assent to there being an apocalyptic Jewish preacher who got too big for his britches and was executed by the Romans. That’s the “real” Jesus.

[Magister @yupboyy]

@scantierrr I don’t think so. You’re right to point out that there is the Jesus that christians believe in, and the actual guy that Jesus is based on. The question is chiefly whether or not the guy the gospels/Paul wrote about has a basis in reality. The historical evidence points to a yes.

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@scantierrr It’s not that he’s obviously fake. It’s that he’s obviously mythologized and the mythologization increases in intensity as the sources get farther away from his time. But they were almost certainly writing about someone real who preached, had a following, and was executed.