@ral_draigo@SEAGERR_ If you talking about Steve d21 he loses his turn completely even after hit cause the second hit is -4 on block and on ch it's +2 and Steve fastest move from that is 15 frame so you're free to take you're turn
@ral_draigo@SEAGERR_ Well it's good that you know what Steve wants to catch people to get CH that's why people play really patiently against Steve cause he is not scary at all if you don't press into he might try to force a 50.50 with Lion heart but you can duck his string and kill him
@ral_draigo@SEAGERR_ Bro trust me Lars is just way way way easier then Steve i don't think you realize how many bad matchups Steve has in this game basically every female or evasive character is just nightmare for Steve even in Miror match Steve is nightmare cause he doesn't have tracking mid
@ral_draigo@SEAGERR_ I respect you're opinion everyone has their own opinion yes Steve is safe it's part of his identity because he can't launch or wall splat so it's trade while his safe he gives the same safety to you that he can't launch you or punish you
@ral_draigo@SEAGERR_ You know that wallsplat you're talking about takes skills right ? Steve player has only 2 frames to do a fast PKB F1+2 again the point that I made that Steve takes brain and execution
@ral_draigo@SEAGERR_ Don't get me wrong I know how you feel against Steve because he is annoying in tk8 but saying he doesn't take any skills or it's just character for mashers it's just big lie ones you know the match up you can beat him easy there's a reason why he has the worst Winrate in thegame
@ral_draigo@SEAGERR_ Also that guard break gives only 28 damage with cheap damage and if you duck Steve dies Steve can't walk splat until -16 until you have execution saying his 50.50 is better the Lars is just a big lie while having mid homing +5 Steve only has 1 mid homing and it's from Lion heart
@ral_draigo@SEAGERR_ I don't expect a god 1 player know about Steve Gameplay or anything I'm sure you haven't even played him you cannot mash with Steve if you know frame data you know that Steve is never plus on block beside ub2 ducking 2 other moves are mid highs also Steve can't launch until -17
@Nozushii True again but Lili can easily side step both of then Steve DF2 doesn't have any tracking to any side but it's good that Lili is a bad match up for Steve I don't like Steve being perfect
@tekken_masterbh Fuck this character man in a game where you need strong CH launchers he has it all and he has S tier punishment we need to start talking about 1+2 that move it's too much