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[. @zvlvx_]

@caibyy i mean if you do understand the bigger point, and you still refuse to partake in veganism, that’s on you.

eating whatever you want whenever you want, with no regard for how it’s made, is also privilege. as is everything else you mentioned earlier.

[. @zvlvx_]

@caibyy you’re trying to come up with an aha gotcha moment in this argument.

‘well um if you don’t eat organic veg then technically.. 🤓☝️’

all i’ve said is if you have the means to go vegan, which most do, you have no excuse.

[. @zvlvx_]

@caibyy ahahah you’re clutching at straws man it’s so pathetic.

idgaf about being called vegan or not, i’m abstaining from funding the death and enslavement of animals.

you could do more, but you don’t, so you try to belittle what other people do, to make yourself feel better

[. @zvlvx_]

@caibyy @hodge_stick 80% of pigs are gassed in this country, a pain equivalent to being burned alive.

but continue to try & win pointless wordings instead of understanding the bigger point.

you could help reduce harm, you choose not to out of ease and comfort

[. @zvlvx_]

@caibyy @hodge_stick what the fuck are you talking about ahahah it literally says seeking to exclude exploitation as far as ‘possible’

as in, if it isn’t possible, then do as much as you can to reduce harm and exploitation within your means.

i do my best. you could do better. that’s all.

[. @zvlvx_]

@caibyy @hodge_stick your point has been it isn’t easy for certain groups of people to be vegan.

i’m saying the average person can easily be vegan

if a group can’t bc of any reason you’ve given. then they can reduce the harm they cause - ‘as far as possible’.

[. @zvlvx_]

@caibyy @hodge_stick bro you’re being dense for the sake of trying to win an argument.

lions eat zebras, they are carnivores.

we are omnivores, and can live on a vegan diet healthily.

why choose to fund enslavement and death when you could easily just not.

you aren’t liberal you’re just a retard

[. @zvlvx_]

@caibyy @hodge_stick just repeatedly saying it isn’t cheap doesn’t make it true.

you aren’t vegan. how would you know so surely it can’t be done cheaply whilst still being easy?

i’ve been both a meat eater and vegan in my life, i have a wider perspective.

[. @zvlvx_]

@caibyy @hodge_stick no lions eat zebras bc it’s natural for them to.

caging animals so they can barely move, forcing them to breed, gassing them & slitting their throats is not natural.

it’s easy and cheap for the *average* person to go vegan. veg is cheap, tofu, lentils, beans are cheap.

[. @zvlvx_]

@caibyy @hodge_stick i’m privileged in the fact i’m not disabled or have home issues, you’re right.

but the bottom line is, for the *average* person, it is very easy to be vegan.

if some people can’t go vegan for whatever reason, then reducing their funding of industrial farming is a good step.

[. @zvlvx_]

@caibyy @hodge_stick privileged in the sense that you fund death to have easy food.

i know people who struggle with mh who are vegan. my gf has chronic fatigue. it’s harder ofc, but not as hard as you think.

disabilities - like i said i’m on about the average person

costs - it’s not expensive lol

[. @zvlvx_]

@caibyy @hodge_stick small amount of animals die *accidentally* from harvesting equipment. habitat loss might cause death or displacement.

you can’t surely believe this is on the same level as industrial farming lmao.

once again you’re being pedantic to win an argument as opposed to understanding

[. @zvlvx_]

@caibyy @hodge_stick - ahah sure, regardless my diet is healthy & i have twice the protein you do for muscle growth, all whilst paying a fraction of the cost

- people who *can* go vegan should. i’m clearly talking about the average person who can take care of themselves, you’re being pedantic

[. @zvlvx_]

@caibyy @hodge_stick feel free to expand instead of being vague, what is your definition of privilege in this instance?

you’re glossing over the fact it’s privileged to fund murder & enslavement for quick meals, but let’s disregard that bc it doesn’t fit your definition

[. @zvlvx_]

@caibyy @hodge_stick - wheat, rice, oats, quinoa, chia daily. more than enough
- courgette, carrots, celery, black beans, kidney beans, cucumber*, tomatoes* daily. more than enough

- the many resources and routes to being vegan are widely available, to the *average* person.

- expand on this

[. @zvlvx_]

@caibyy @hodge_stick if that’s the case i’d genuinely recommend doing some research into veganism & the practices of the farming industry to learn more about what you fund!

privilege is funding an industry that murders and enslaves animals, just so you can have easy meals. surely you can see that

[. @zvlvx_]

@caibyy @hodge_stick just repeating that doesn’t make it true ahah

- my diets cheaper & healthier than yours
- it’s widely available to the average uk citizen
- it causes no death or enslavement of animals

it isn't out of touch or privileged, you just need an excuse as to why you can’t change

[. @zvlvx_]

@caibyy @hodge_stick funding an industry that murders and enslaves animals just so you can have quick 5 minute meals is the definition of privilege you absolute retard ahaha

my diet costs a fraction of yours & causes no death. yours is the privileged one

the average person in the uk has no excuse

[. @zvlvx_]

@caibyy @hodge_stick if people can’t get to large supermarkets, they can food shop online.

the % of people who can’t go to supermarkets + can’t shop online is so low.

you are just trying to find excuses lmao.

the bottom line is, it’s very easy for the average person to be vegan.

[. @zvlvx_]

@caibyy @hodge_stick you literally can buy tofu, seitan and tempeh from tesco. are you okay?

i just choose to make them from scratch, with ingredients you can very easily buy online, because it’s cheaper

20 mins prep for a weeks portion is nothing

66% is complete protein, which is more than fine