Have Helena and Babs' early conflict be about Babs' lingering resentment of Helena "taking" her old mantle + differences in morals ❌
Have their conflict be bc Helena slept w/Dick before they were even together ✅
Once again misogyny gets in the way of interesting storytelling
some ships could’ve lived perfectly peaceful lives in my complete indifference if their shippers hadn’t spent years running the most effective negative PR campaign imaginable
one of the many misconceptions about babs as oracle and as a disabled woman is that she stays in her little cave friendless and alone when she had so many hobbies, was always moving around, used the internet to have even more connections. she's charming and had many friends!
I don't think oraclewing's writing is perfect, it can be misogynistic at times, (which is unfortunately true for most/all heterosexual (dc) couples) but I disagrew that the ship is inherently bad for Babs when this amazing quote is from an issue that focuses on their romance
it’s not misogynistic for you to acknowledge female characters are created by men for the male gaze what’s misogynistic is you calling these fictional characters sluts and whores and prostitutes because you can’t be normal about your criticism
the minute i dislike a ship because of its shippers that’s really it for me. i’m never gonna grow to like it and i’m never liking it again if i did like it before lmao
Okay last thing but I find it so funny that when someone brings up the misogyny and racism when it comes to canon art and fanart. The immediate reaction is “oh so Jason fans can’t be upset about seeing him in drawings” like there’s no way you don’t see the actual issue
I’m not saying the op can’t be upset about not seeing Jason in batfam drawings but there’s a big difference between purposefully leaving out a white man (whos literally at odds with his family occasionally) and just completely forgetting to put a two poc characters and two women
@reyzplatter Like I get if it’s just the Wayne fam but then Steph will be there like oh ok, I also think it’s cause a lot of people don’t like drawing her wheelchair because then she doesn’t “fit” in with dynamic poses