@SamaraFlor35458 Which is exactly why in contrast the version outside of the circus is seemingly in a much healthier space with closer relationships with people.
The “payoff” is for the audience not the character and it’s (arguably) about the dangers of perpetuating one’s own spiral.
@SamaraFlor35458 A lot easier here to argue the “payoff” is that Jax only harms himself by maintaining a self destructive perception of the intent of others and refusing to acknowledge his own internal problems for what they are
People don’t have to like it, all narrative framework that’s based more around interpretation will be divisive, but to call it cowardly when it’s serving a narrative point feels like a gut reaction.
@LegoKingo Jax being in a state of rejection and denial is reflected in the shows pretty heavy handed symbolism paired with a refusal to outright state what that symbolism means. It’s a direct reflection imo, which is part of what makes it compelling.
A lot of internalize homophobia is a reflection of someone’s conflicting feelings toward their own sexuality and contextually misogyny can have similar roots. If someone is insecure in their masculinity or gender identity it can 100% manifest in being misogynistic.
@Janesmyass@skyatmosa Tbh I’ve known some misogynistic people who ultimately were using it to compensate for the fact they were trans and couldn’t accept it at the time so I wouldn’t use that to write it off.
@WillOsupurei Look at hangman, for all intents and purposes he’s a super sweet guy but he’s trashed all his goodwill, especially with women, because he associates with a known creep. It’s hard to blame people who feel that way.
@WillOsupurei Because despite any work he may do that’s positive in regards to things such as autism he regularly exhibits behaviour and choices that make women uncomfortable.
I’d like to think it’s unintentional, but it’s become a pattern regardless.
On a grander scale social expectations and perceptions are just as transformative as personal reflection as well.
Art is something we all find meaning in and what that meaning is will inherently change depending on who’s looking at it.
@jui_cyapple@dr_drew123 No art is really inherently made to be recontexualized but every piece, regardless of medium, can be no matter the artists original intent.
Through personal reflection art will always take on new meanings regardless of how we feel about it.
I play a lot of deadlock, I like deadlock, I don’t like deadlock being ranked only, I know a lot of people don’t play it with a comp/ranked mindset, that doesn’t mean the game isn’t a comp game 🫠
@dvveet If you were presenting the idea that the game would be better if it leaned less in the direction of being a more traditional comp experience I would agree, some of the most fun I’ve had has been in less comp oriented content. But to say the game isn’t a comp game is disingenuous.
@HunchoJt__ You’re saying this like the company itself doesn’t treat Austin winning as a key moment for establishing him to the audience.
A bunch of WWE’s history specifically marks the Austin 3:16 promo as the moment his more or less permanent character was established.
@lord_waka Well put.
Personally, I would argue that the Jax we know in show is super subjective regarding deserving sympathy and it’s more the sequence of events that created the abuser that’s meant to be inherently sympathetic rather than the character themselves.