All Incidents (small & large) should get start correctly every single time (W/ Brief Initial Report; Proper Apparatus Placement, Water Supply & Ladder Positions to get underway). If we start off by being well managed & under control, the incident will likely end successfully.
@medicalaxioms But this is how we ask patients. We don’t ask them “do you deny using methamphetamines?”. It’s okay to ask a question one way and record the result in different words. To the man with MS, “What happens when you take a hot shower?”
“Patient described Uhthoff’s phenomenon”
@hp_ems@jon_kavanagh@CMSGov EMS prob: benefit of responding to perceived med emerg, r/o life threats, facilitating same-day visit or priv transport to urgent care is not measurable.
@AaronFlorin@jon_kavanagh@CMSGov There is always a struggle to show the value one provides beyond the cost they incur. Problem is that often the value is not directly to the payor of our services.
@hp_ems@CMSGov I was reacting to the idea of changing terminology. (W/O equating MD & paramedic) even if pt chooses not to accept MD’s Tx plan, the MD is reimbursed for the visit.
@hp_ems@jon_kavanagh@CMSGov That’s going to be a tough sell. CMS’s goal is to save money. Goal achieved by not paying EMS for what’s a public service and historically never billed.
@AaronFlorin@hp_ems@CMSGov Gotcha. @MaineEMS used to have Paramedic-initiated refusals but it looks like they did away with them.
But, getting the right care to the patient at the right time is an important part of improving the system... non-emergency response, non-emergency care/follow-up, etc.
@AaronFlorin@CMSGov I guess my point was that it is not necessarily a negative encounter that is wholly based on whether we transport or not. It's the difference of a mindset (and reimbursement focus rather than tx focus.)
@jon_kavanagh@hp_ems@CMSGov I was referring to the patient refusing. Otherwise that’s abandonment. I am not aware of anywhere that allows paramedics to refuse transport (outside of extreme circumstances).