@Vicoffin@Leaflit then here is a question from me, why are you in particular advocating for someone else to take responsibility for other people? why should i let the government have say over anyone's kids? at that point they aren't a parent anymore, they're just a cog in the machine.
@Vicoffin@Leaflit and that should be something that you if you're a parent institute for your children in your home. the government should stay out of people's personal lives, and people should take accountability for how they want their family to be raised.
@Vicoffin@Leaflit politely i'm an old man, if you can't look at people and plan for them to abuse a system once it's set in place; then you are merely lying to yourself. people at their core will find ways to take advantage of things, for that is their nature.
@Vicoffin@Leaflit Who decides that general good though, and when does that general good stop being what you consider "good".
The people in power will always use and abuse that power because they can. They have shown repeatedly they will, and they do so at their leisure for their own benefit.
@NobuddyAtBest I think you might be misunderstanding me then, as i actually agree with the OP's comments. My reply was in response to the person replying who couldn't seem to separate their emotions from their attempt at a "conversation that isn't disingenuous"
@NobuddyAtBest@HayashiYukiVT@kyomu_utsuro It was more a correlation, that I was making. If you saw my reply and viewed it as hateful perhaps check your own sensitivity or bias first. As the person replying was already coming into the dialogue not in good faith to begin with. So politely, have a good day.
@HayashiYukiVT@kyomu_utsuro when an animal does something that an animal is known for doing, it's viewed as being just an animal. you don't get mad at an animal for doing what's natural to it, you merely reflect that it's doing what is natural to an animal and call it as such. or in short; it is, what it is