@makesensenowha@erythreas@muslimorthodoxy@falseprofitmo Exactly. I've asked this question every time Christians bring up that debate, and I still haven't received a clear answer.
They're always projecting. They're the ones who act like they've won regardless of outcome.
@IjazTheTrini There is a lesson for you in the story of Prophet Ayyub PBUH, brother Ijaz.
وَأَيُّوبَ إِذْ نَادَىٰ رَبَّهُ أَنِّي مَسَّنِيَ الضُّرُّ وَأَنتَ أَرْحَمُ الرَّاحِمِينَ
Make sure you are not withholding anyone’s rights, and make this duʿā’.
May Allah grant you complete shifā.
@Spell_Caster_99@korrathetaymi The Qur'an doesn't say Thul Qarnayn is Alexander the Great, that's fallible scholar interpretation.
But keep on lying, that's your only defense against Islam I get it.
Israel killed his mother and father.
Because of Israel, his leg was amputated.
Because of Israel, his left hand is now also at risk of amputation.
Don’t stop talking about Gaza.
@GodLogic_GL@InspiringPhilos This is actually funny.
Nothing about the trinity was even said during the entire debate.. at least think before you lie "Christians".
🚨BREAKING: A Palestinian girl in Gaza wore her orange Eid dress, waiting to celebrate Eid al-Adha with her family. Minutes later, an Israeli missile struck their building, killing them all.
10 Palestinians were killed and dozens of neighbors injured in the massacre.
Eid Mubarak everybody! On this day, we commemorate the blessed day the Lord tested Abraham and ransomed his son with a great sacrifice.
Let us remember, there are no “Abrahamic Faiths”! This is indeed a foolish mockery of Abraham. There is but one Abrahamic faith, the faith of Abraham himself. Islam
“Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian; he submitted in all uprightness and was not a polytheist.” Quran 3:67
Peace Be Upon Ibrāhim & his progeny.
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An Israeli unit's "homecoming" party featured a display of their well-documented annihilation of southern Lebanon's villages, met with cheers and laughter from crowds of soldiers, their relatives, and family members.
It is a scene impossible to see anywhere but Israel.
🇮🇱🇱🇧 WHAT THE FUCK! Apparently, an IDF drone struck paramedics MID-RESCUE in southern Lebanon.
Rescue workers rushing to help injured civilians get hit again while treating the wounded.
Unbelievable.
@lyriadefense@MagaSteven1776@DelusionPosting I haven't moved the goalpost, you're playing word games.. the word itself was never the point of contention.
Can you answer the question now please.
No. My original point was built around your definition of the word. I simply pointed out that your definition does not match the Sunni position.
But now that you got exposed, you slippery rodents are desperately trying to retreat into semantics and shift the goalposts.
So answer the question directly:
Are you claiming that Sunni Islam permits Muslims to lie to outsiders whenever it benefits them?
Or are you hiding behind the word “taqiyya” because you realized the Sunni concept is specifically tied to "iḍṭirār".. coercion, necessity, and fear of serious harm?
You don’t get a third option.
Either concede, or expose yourself as just another insincere clown like the rest in these replies.
You just exposed yourself as an insincere larper.
The point of contention was never the semantics.. it was the concept itself. Your definition is: “Muslims can lie to outsiders whenever it’s convenient.”
That concept does not exist in Sunni Islam anywhere. The actual concept that exists is iḍṭirār, which I already demonstrated.
So at this point, you’ve basically conceded the discussion.
And of course, you still couldn’t resist throwing in unrelated bullshit from your filthy gallery.
Which only further proves you’re a clueless larper who doesn’t even know that, according to the Bible itself.. your book.. God created humans from dust/soil. [Genesis 2:7]
Not much better…
And even here, this still doesn’t help your case.
The definition you keep operating under and projecting onto all Muslims.. “lying to outsiders whenever it’s convenient”.. is primarily associated with Rafidi Shiism, and even there it gets exaggerated and misrepresented.
Sunni Islam operates under the concept of iḍṭirār.. necessity. Which is exactly what the wiki page itself is describing: a limited allowance for concealment under extreme danger, like when your life is literally at risk.
The al-Tabari commentary mentioned on the page even says that avoiding the concession and remaining steadfast to the point of martyrdom is more virtuous. lol
Which, once again, proves my original point.
As I said.. you people are the only ones in this conversation using your fantasy definition of “taqiyya.” even, in most conversations in general.
Why are you doing Shia taqiyya and conveniently cutting out the first part? lol
You literally just proved my point.
Sunni orthodoxy: the concept of iḍṭirār, exactly as I explained earlier... limited exceptions under extreme necessity.
Rafidi Shiism: the unrestricted “lying to outsiders” definition you keep trying to project onto all Muslims.
So thanks for proving my point for me.