Alaphridus Cardinalis Ottaviani

ALFRIDVS CARD. OTTAVIANI
CHRISTVM ET ECCLESIAM
VEHEMENTER DILEXIT
"SEMPER IDEM"
N. 29 X 1890 M. 3 VIII 1979

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My translation of Francisco Suarez, De sacramentis, disp. 83, sect. ii, in which he explains and defends the prayers of the Roman Canon.
https://t.co/hUmayHTd6V

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@kennedyhall @CTrefugees Protestants of the time also interpreted the canon in this way in their anti-Trent polemics, and accused the pope of usurping tyrannical liturgical authority over the liturgy, which (in their opinion) demanded liberty of practice. (Chemnitz and Calvin below)

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@kennedyhall @CTrefugees Every Catholic theologian writing after Trent read this text as vindicating supreme liturgical authority to the Church and esp. the Pope. Suarez and the Salmanticenses were at pains to point out that « quemcumque » indicated papal liturgical supremacy.

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@SeamusNua Shades of Archbishop von Wied. Where's their Johann Gropper?

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@FrDylanSchrader I'm glad that I've been banking books for most of my life. I'll have plenty of backup material when the internet finally explodes or implodes or whatever.

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@FrHilderbrand I like to think of them as peak examples of their respective media. In visuals and sound, the films are top tier, pure scifi cinema. The book is a deep, magnificent scifi world that absorbed me into it as soon as I began reading. Each does things the other can't.

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@FeserEdward Years ago he had an article on the liceity of the Missal of Paul VI that was hot garbage, truly the worst sort of stereotypical trad trash masquerading as theological argument (I say this as a trad of sorts myself). Some topics simply turn smart people into morons.

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@CatholicSmark @ettingermentum hey at least they got the tattoos right

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@aqx0c Marvelous. Up until a year ago, my father was organist at our local parish for 30+ years, and he played a lot of Dupré, Franck, and Widor on the big stereo at home. My current organ music playlist is filled with them, esp. from Michael Murray's recordings.

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@martyrids respondeo: "quodammodo"

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@davverista I would actually be interested in e.g. a Gosselinian/de Marcan take, i.e. a quasi-Gallican interpretation/melioration of the papal/theological texts that integralists usually appeal to. But these guys are right-Liberals, so for them it has to be all about fascism and the Jews. 🥱

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@davverista If these clowns were genuinely interested in wrestling with the "roots of 21st century postliberal integralism", they would be looking at the long train of popes & theologians from Gelasius onward who appealed to & expounded on the two powers. Mala fides.

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@CTrefugees I always found Bouix's comment on this to be one of the more useful observations in this question:
https://t.co/pOabvCgtBR

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@StNickRespecter @Thomisticae Chemnitz has a similarly sus "quote" from Pedro de Soto in his Examen concilii tridentini, but curiously gives no reference at all.

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@StNickRespecter @Thomisticae In my experience, this sort of ignorance/knavery is pretty common in Protestant "scholastic" theologians. E.g. Calovius and Turretin outright lie about Trent/Catholic theologians, or twist their words so shamelessly that it amounts to the same thing. Retarded or malicious? 🤷‍♂️

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@L00seN00se @Thomisticae Latin of this sort tends to feature long and involved sentences, forcing awkward maneuvers in English, and this is no exception. Sentences 2-5 in this English version were originally one single sentence:
https://t.co/dPQ1d68DGJ

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@UpdatingOnRome I don't see many doge memes these days and I miss them. This reminded me of better times.

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@CatholicSmark At some point I'll get the .pdf on my tablet and spend some time reading through it and maybe marking it up. Typically I don't care about these docs, but I am mildly interested in what he has to say on this topic, even if it's milquetoast.

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@OVTweetmarck He's a retarded gay atheist, there's nothing that can be done for him by human means.

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@CTrefugees This was the list I was able to get a few years ago of the vols. that were published. Looks like the Introductio in litteras liturgicas is a second and much-expanded edition of the Introductio ad litteraturam liturgicam that I mentioned above, about twice the length now.

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@CTrefugees There's an excellent intro vol. with an historical conspectus of liturgical literature that I have bound w/vol. 1 of De iure liturgico. I was also able to get all the Baptism books as well as tom. VI. Notiones liturgiæ fundamentales, but that's it so far. (more than 4 I guess)