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Yefet Cohen, Samaritan communal leader and the curator of the Samaritan museum speaking to Pavel Bernstein: "The Most High chose the name - Israel (Jacob). Israel doesn't [exclusively] belong to the Samaritans, nor to the Jews. There is no Samaritan religion, just as really, there is no Jewish religion. We are [both] the Nation of Israel."

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To be clear, Jacob has absolutely no clue on what the consensus view of the Samaritan community is are on Ashkenazi Jewish indigeneity. He just posts a hearsay anecdote about what a Jewish person said 'all the Samaritans were saying' in 1967, and claims to speak for all of them.

The NYT in 2021 reported on about the nuances of Samaritan identity; a Samaritan they interviewed said he identified as a Palestinian and an Arab growing up, but came to strongly support Israel because he believes Israel preserves the existence of the Samaritan community. The NYT mentioned both Samaritan Likud voters and Samaritan members of the PLO. https://t.co/bFhT9ugeO9.

The general tenor of the article is that the Samaritans seem to have more cultural similarities with the Palestinians, but are treated well by Israel and many see support for the state as being in their interest. Regardless, it appears that the community straddles both sides of the Israel-Palestine conflict, and its views cannot be summed up in the reductive and frankly disrespectful manner Jacob attempts to. If one wanted to figure out what Samaritans think about these issues, one would have to carry out a detailed anthropological study, not just meme.

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@DenialLaw While dodging the issue can make me go away, it won't make the issue go away.

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@DenialLaw Do we agree that toponymic surnames among Jews imply different things than they do among Arabs?

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@mankinddivid3d @MeirSimchah Do you think surnames were taken before lactase persistence was introduced to Europe?

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@MoVagabond @DrZionist @SkyeRob66357427 the Caliph's New Clothes?

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There are numerous onomastic works on Jewish names and they all ascribe toponymic surnames to the toponym itself. No one has any issue with these works and I've never encountered a single Jew deny that their ancestor at one point lived in the place their surname implies. I've encountered 2 cases of denial about descending from Ashkenazi patrilines when the surname in the non-Ashkenazi Jew was "Ashkenazi", but these aren't even toponyms, anyhow. The groups the 2 individuals belong to end up getting Ashkenazi Y-DNA results when they're surnamed Ashkenazi, as happens with almost everyone surnamed Ashkenazi. Only seen one exception with a separate Sephardi group and that could easily have been a case of mistaking a Provencal Jew for an Ashkenazi when one considers the phylogeny of the clade or it was simply a NPE - A rare one-off) This is of course different from thinking that a Jewish Warshawsky descends from an ethnic Pole or that a Jewish Halabi descends from an ethnic Syrian. Would be incredible to learn that there was a coherent Palestinian diaspora before surnames and those returning from Egypt were called Al-Masri. I have seen a Palestinian Al-Masri Y result, btw. With little surprise, he forms a late clade with a Sudanese. I sometimes wonder why we don't see more Palestinian Al-Masris getting tested. What do you think?

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@DenialLaw Palestinians are all made in a lab, so only those infused with Kurdish patrilines have Kurdish ancestry

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@20nine7teen This is way too much analysis for something that happens to local arabs as well

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@ABSAWIABUSHANAB @MaxNordau Do first names function like surnames?

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@ABSAWIABUSHANAB @MaxNordau Does the surname Jordan mean "The Jordanian"?

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@DyonnUlaji @MollaEmil @michalbgigi All subgroups of Ashkenazim have a high rate of lactose intolerance

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https://t.co/HY8ydUyDWE

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The Levantine one is just Ashkenazi Anna Khavina from Minsk smiling on the one day arsim didn't call her a רוּסִיָּה

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How Levantine Arabs sell themselves:

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Zionists will look at you with a straight face and tell you that this guy is indigenous to the Middle East

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https://t.co/tLODr6twap

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They really think you're too white to be "indigenous to Palestine"

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The Levantine one is just Ashkenazi Anna Khavina from Minsk smiling on the one day arsim didn't call her a רוּסִיָּה

[Ale @AleJohnson242]

They really think you're too white to be "indigenous to Palestine"

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More of Levantine Arabs when they're not talking about Jews: