@MetalRhino42 The same thing happened with our old synodical partners in the Synodical Conference who were right in almost every judgment they made in those sad day of dissolution
@chris_paavola@JHGoodman8404 Same here. The challenge is that, in the Lutheran Confessions, the Chief Service has a shape that goes beyond what is merely biblical into a lived out practice that was already 1500 years old. They intentionally laid hold of that and claim it as their own—so did we
@chris_paavola@JHGoodman8404 As to picture, I have concern with the instruments. I do not know the song but am not opposed to any music that is biblically sound and faithful to our shared confessions. If this was the chief service on the Lord’s Day I would want it shaped according to the western rite
@chris_paavola@JHGoodman8404 I gladly confess that today as I did at my ordination. Can you say the same about my quote? The two quotes not at odds as there has been and can be variety from place to place while worshiping according to the western rite.
@chris_paavola@JHGoodman8404 I asked you about your confession regarding the conclusion to the AC. In charity I am assuming you confess it still as I do with AC VII. If that is our shared confessional standard then we can at least begin a conversation as to how the two are reconciled in public worship
@chris_paavola@JHGoodman8404 “ And ceremonies” You asked for a definition. I gave you one. The western rite is a matter of historical record. You cannot read the confessions apart from the stated desire of the reformers to introduce NO new doctrines or ceremonies.
@chris_paavola@JHGoodman8404 “In doctrine and ceremonies nothing has been received on our part against Scripture or the Church Catholic. For it is manifest that we have taken most diligent care that no new and ungodly doctrine should creep into our churches.” AC Conclusion 5
@BaldwinPDEH1710@DrJordanBCooper No, but they are Lutheran—self-consciously, seriously Lutheran in their own pietistic way. That’s the point! Confessional Lutherans such as the Synodical Conference are not the only Lutherans