@mercernole2021@HistoryBoomer What rules??? There is no rule against speaking your mind or attending protests. It's scary how many people are so eager to pretend like some special rules exist for visitors about not saying things they've determined are bad.
@snitchin_bubs@nahlijizgood@mattyglesias That would be funny if it were in a movie precisely for the reason it's not funny when someone says it in real life. You just shouldn't say things like that because it's mean and most of us learned to monitor our interactions with others before reaching adulthood.
@LehnerKath@JonahDispatch And then you come home and shout to the family, "Everyone come help put groceries away please!" Or at least, that's what I do.
This is literally fake news. JD Vance didn't read the court documents.
Here is what they actually say.
Abrego Garcia is not a "convicted gang member." He's never been charged or convicted of *any* crime. Police accused him of being MS-13 after stopping him and 3 other men for allegedly loitering outside a Home Depot, where he says he'd gone to apply for a job. It was his first and only time in state custody.
Law enforcement separated the men and interrogated them about gang membership. They told Abrego Garcia he could leave if he gave them information, which he said he didn't have.
One of the other men pointed the finger at Abrego Garcia and accused him of being affiliated with part of a gang that operates in New York, where he's never lived. That—along with the fact that he was wearing *a Chicago Bulls hat and a hoodie*—is the "evidence" law enforcement said showed he was in a gang.
When his lawyer went to find the police report for the Home Depot incident, Abrego Garcia wasn't even named on it. And what about the subsequent gang evaluation? The investigator who authored it was suspended.
In late 2019, Abrego Garcia won his case, was granted protected status, and was released from custody. He has had no arrests since. Those are the facts.
@SusanK1717@jonfavs@JDVance I think this one is wrong actually. D's are doing A LOT wrong right now, but defending due process is not one of them. And it's the "alleged" part that is so problematic. Anyone can be alleged to do anything. Proven or convicted is a different story.
This is literally fake news. JD Vance didn't read the court documents.
Here is what they actually say.
Abrego Garcia is not a "convicted gang member." He's never been charged or convicted of *any* crime. Police accused him of being MS-13 after stopping him and 3 other men for allegedly loitering outside a Home Depot, where he says he'd gone to apply for a job. It was his first and only time in state custody.
Law enforcement separated the men and interrogated them about gang membership. They told Abrego Garcia he could leave if he gave them information, which he said he didn't have.
One of the other men pointed the finger at Abrego Garcia and accused him of being affiliated with part of a gang that operates in New York, where he's never lived. That—along with the fact that he was wearing *a Chicago Bulls hat and a hoodie*—is the "evidence" law enforcement said showed he was in a gang.
When his lawyer went to find the police report for the Home Depot incident, Abrego Garcia wasn't even named on it. And what about the subsequent gang evaluation? The investigator who authored it was suspended.
In late 2019, Abrego Garcia won his case, was granted protected status, and was released from custody. He has had no arrests since. Those are the facts.
@bansisharma @steve_agnew80 @JonahDispatch@kwelkernbc Also, here is a ) for anyone whose brain was bothered by my oversight in closing my parentheses above.
@bansisharma @steve_agnew80 @JonahDispatch@kwelkernbc And if that ISN'T true, I'd like to see the legal explanation for why being elected twice does not make a personal ineligible (since the constitution does not give explicit instruction for how the word "eligible" should be used.
@bansisharma @steve_agnew80 @JonahDispatch@kwelkernbc I guess almost nothing is really cut and dry until it's been adjudicated in the courts. Hopefully we won't get to that point.
@bansisharma @steve_agnew80 @JonahDispatch@kwelkernbc That doesn't answer my question, which you have evaded. Do we stop using the word "eligible" in its common usage because the Constitution mentions it in other places? Note, as far as I could tell, it does NOT define eligibility. Just uses the word.
@bansisharma @steve_agnew80 @JonahDispatch@kwelkernbc As someone who is not a lawyer, I don't have any reason to believe that the word "eligible" loses its meaning just because it's used elsewhere in the constitution. So that would be the question. Is someone who has been elected twice actually eligible? What definition must we use?
@bansisharma @steve_agnew80 @JonahDispatch@kwelkernbc How is someone who has already been elected and served twice "constitutionally eligible to the office of President"? Your argument makes no sense.