@Warlock_Mildon@HellOnWheels616 I'm not wrong. It is essentially materialist individualism with a satanic wrapper. I don't find "You must have a humiliation kink" to be an effective counter argument to that point.
@Warlock_Mildon@HellOnWheels616@jester And there's nothing you disagree with, of course. Otherwise you would just be in agreement with some philosophical ideas he had while being your own man. Instead you're just another Lavey follower.
@HellOnWheels616@Warlock_Mildon@jester You individualists sure know how to stick together. A lot of "us" talk from people who claim to take pride in the self. Curious.
@HellOnWheels616@Warlock_Mildon "We are so individualistic that we need to listen to another man on the proper way to be a part of an identity he crafted" - Chuch of Satan members
@RealBlakeMagri@Warlock_Mildon@HellOnWheels616@jester "We're so individualistic that we have another man's bible we point to in order to explain our beliefs!" That's what followers do, you are a follower, you have a leader. Just saying "Our leader preached individualism" doesn't make you not a follower.
@RealBlakeMagri@Warlock_Mildon@HellOnWheels616@jester In a way, I was a better Satanist as an atheist than you are because I would never join a fake church started by another man. I'd sooner start my own. You got suckered, grifted. What are you but the follower of another man? And you call yourself an individualist?
@Warlock_Mildon@HellOnWheels616@RealBlakeMagri I'm a man though and I am capable of understanding. If you're against religion, I understand that. But to join a group based on secular humanism with a Satanic twist but not having any actual faith? That's just dancing to another man's drum. I'd prefer to be a free thinker.
@HellOnWheels616@Warlock_Mildon@RealBlakeMagri Maybe I'm just too much of an individualist to understand why anyone would need it. I never needed anything like it when I was atheist. I guess if you have trouble regulating emotions and need to engage in a another man's ritual to "get it all out", more power to ya.
@Warlock_Mildon@HellOnWheels616@RealBlakeMagri Is it really as simple as someone packaged those philosophical positions into a box called "Church of Satan", you found those philosophies agreed with you, so you became a Satanist?
@Warlock_Mildon@HellOnWheels616@RealBlakeMagri So the distinction isn’t really in unique moral principles compared to secular or humanist ethics, but in the adversarial framing, using Satan as a symbolic identity for skepticism, anti-conformity, and rejection of guilt-based or herd morality.
Is this accurate?
@RealBlakeMagri@Warlock_Mildon@HellOnWheels616 Okay, ignore community building. Is Satanism mainly secular/materialist individualism with Satan as symbolic identity rather than a moral foundation? If so, what does the Satan symbol add that a neutral name wouldn’t?
@RealBlakeMagri@Warlock_Mildon@HellOnWheels616 From all your posts saying "we and us" describing your network of believers. You're all a part of the Church of Satan community, thus you use the plural form when talking about your community.