@holysmoke TC was unfortunately the logical next step, after SP failed to reintegrate the trads into the life of the Church; by all accounts they got WORSE after it.
I’m not about to defend everything that happened in this visit, but the difference here is that Mullally came more or less for a casual chat and no real ask. Kinda like your crazy cousin popping in for a visit. It’s overall fun, she says some things you don’t like but it’s not worth fighting over right now, she leaves and you move on with life.
The SSPX was not looking for a casual chat nor were they estranged cousins of the Church. The expectations are different. You are always more strict on your own children than you are the children of strangers.
The Anglicans have been in open rebellion for over 400 years. The expectations for them are low. The SSPX claim to be loyal sons. The expectations for them are much higher.
However, if the SSPX wants to be treated like strangers in the Vatican, relegated to casual and friendly visits, then they’re on the right track.
Been a while since I did a proper one of these, "Hollywood" vs History: The Pendragon Cycle (2026) vs Musée des temps Barbares de Marle (July 2024, credit: Barry's Photography)
My hot take on the excommunication news:
Francis was consistently generous with those at odds with the church, from every part of the spectrum, not only the SSPX
Leo has consistently been disciplinary and direct with all
1 thing both pontificates have in common is consistency
This isn’t controversial. My mom went to the TLM every day of her life in elementary school and was still shocked and awed at our TLM church. It’s completely different than what she knew, which was mostly a grumpy priest entering, mumbling through a Mass, and leaving.
Truthfully, I don’t know if that’s because our TLM is somewhat reactionary, but that’s still technically a fruit, even if unintended! A lot of us who are cradle Catholics and survived the 80s and 90s when the “spirit of Vatican 2” generation was in direct charge of parishes, have seen remarkable changes in our lifetimes. Yes, there’s still far to go, but what was once commonplace — psychotic, NO Masses — is growing rarer and rarer.
The fruit of the first SSPX division, too, is responsible for a lot of traditional orders and more expansive TLM. SP expanded it everywhere. TC was harmful, but for someone who survived the worst, it seemed more to me like a dying, desperate gasp than a true apocalypse.
That’s, I think, why yesterday was so profoundly sad: people who don’t see the good changes because they’ve been bathed, by their own leadership, in pessimism and acerbic hatred for years are now in real harm’s way.
I’ve lost a lot of followers over my comments on the SSPX so I want to say something
You are not going underground to preserve tradition like the early church
They were running from pagan rulers, not from the magisterium, the pope, and the missal.
Do not risk your soul by dying outside the church. Be a traditional Catholic and with filial obedience repent and come home to your church.
Attended the SSPX for years. When we left and started attending diocesan TLM & NO, my faith and charity actually increased. Same w. my wife and children. Rosary everyday, confession once a month, and evangelize in our community. This schismatic nonsense if utterly false.
If the consecrations go forward, rejecting the SSPX's position is clearly the safer course. The burden of proof rests entirely on those who claim that fidelity to Christ requires defying the explicit directives of the Roman Pontiff and receiving the sacraments from ministers who lack ordinary jurisdiction.
@ShiversShana Clearly, MAGA was hoping that ICE terror tactics would either forcibly round up and deport every illegal in the country, or scare them out.
@InDeepGeek So...not how it happened in Fire and Blood. And this time, it's a scene that MULTIPLE people witnessed, so we should assume that Gildane's account is true.
It tracks though, given how the show has so softened Adult Rhaenyra's character.
@buff_err Much more plausible in the show than in the books, probably, since the Kingsguard armor is actually begging for arrows to find its cracks and weak spots 🤣
In a final appeal, Pope Leo XIV has implored the Society of St Pius X not to go ahead with its consecrations tomorrow of four bishops without a papal mandate:
The full text (working English translation):
"To the Reverend
Don Davide Pagliarani
Superior General
of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Pius X
With a fatherly heart, I wish to address you and, through you, the bishops, priests, seminarians, and faithful associated with the Priestly Fraternity of St. Pius X, mindful of the responsibility the Lord has entrusted to me as Successor of the Apostle Peter.
The Church recognizes the commitment to liturgical life, the dedication to priestly formation, the apostolic zeal, and the desire for fidelity to Tradition that characterize many individuals and communities associated with this Fraternity. This has motivated the attitude of attention and benevolence that my Predecessors have consistently shown toward you.
In this spirit, and filled with Christian affection, I beg and implore you with all my heart: turn back! I urge you to carefully consider the spiritual good of the faithful, for the schismatic act you would commit would deprive them of the lawful—and in some cases even valid—reception of the sacraments they love and seek for their own sanctification.
The Church is open to a path of dialogue and understanding that the Holy Spirit can make possible and fruitful.
I pray for you, for tearing the seamless Tunic of Christ is a sin of the utmost gravity. May the Lord enlighten your consciences and awaken your hearts. By the authority received from Christ, with a sorrowful heart yet still full of hope, I feel the duty to ask you to desist from your intention, and I entrust these intentions to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Mother of Good Counsel.
From the Vatican, June 29, 2026
Solemnity of Saints Peter and Paul, the Apostles
LEO XIV"
@Young_Anglican Off the top of my head, @ThomasDHowes and @McGillPatterson might be two people who would; their specialty is politics, but they have studied the Franco regime as a cautionary tale for modern conservative politicians.
From open letter from former SSPXer Andrew Bartel: "Why have we forgotten two classic definitions of schism: 'setting up altar against altar' (St. Cyprian) and 'refusing to act as part of the whole' (Cajetan)?
The SSPX has discouraged its followers from attending even Tridentine Masses offered by priests in communion with Rome. They have nothing to do with local bishops unless it is in their favor.
They have rejected an ecumenical council, an officially promulgated Missal, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, parts of the 1983 Code of Canon Law, canonizations, and most of the magisterial teaching of five popes!
And what of the illicit ordinations and consecrations? Who has the audacity to call this mere disobedience? Do not repeated acts of disobedience over half a century qualify as refusal of submission to the authority of the Church?
The SSPX even comes under the anathema of the Council of Trent (Session XXII, Canon VII), by its claim that the reformed liturgy contains 'elements dangerous for the Faith' (The Problem of the Liturgical Reform).
Do you indeed now align yourself with an excommunicated Archbishop who called the new rites 'bastard sacraments' and newly ordained priests 'bastard priests'?"
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