@temmuz1919 Gökyüzü kırmızıya boyansın diyorsunuz… Kırmızı ve kan sembolizmi konusunda Türk askerî propagandasının epey tecrübeli olduğu belli. Biraz daha az gösteri, biraz daha fazla diplomasi iyi olabilir.
@AV_Facts@i345201 2/2 : Deal on the coffee 😄 But now we’ve opened the real Greek-Turkish dispute: is it Greek coffee, Turkish coffee, or simply “the same coffee with two passports”? Let’s settle that one at the café, not at The Hague.
@AV_Facts@i345201 1/2 : Agreed on the territorial sea point: equidistance is the normal starting point, subject to special circumstances. I’d only qualify “only the EEZ goes to the ICJ”.The Court can also delimit territorial seas and continental shelves if the dispute submitted to it requires that
@AV_Facts@i345201 Fair point. On the general framework, I agree: up to 12 nm is permitted, innocent passage remains, and maritime disputes should be settled by agreement or the ICJ. I’d only add that EEZ/continental shelf delimitation is more nuanced than simply drawing a middle line everywhere.
@AV_Facts@i345201 revisionism is hardly imaginary on X. “Blue Homeland” narratives routinely recast maritime borders, history and “historical justice” to fit nationalist claims. So yes, when history is selectively rewritten to serve present-day territorial politics, calling it revisionism is fair.
@AV_Facts@i345201 2/2 : And yes: Ottoman crimes against Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians must also be confronted honestly. Recognising one atrocity does not erase another. History is not a competition over whose dead count more.
@AV_Facts@i345201 1/2 : You’re making a fairer argument than most people in this thread. Ottoman rule was oppressive in many respects, and Greeks had every right to fight for independence. But that still does not turn Muslim and Jewish civilians in Tripolitsa into legitimate targets.
Greeks should had never fought for their freedom against the turks.
Greeks should enjoy forceful islamisations, the snatching of their children, turning them into janisaries. the Capitation or Jizya.
Greek should also learn to enjoy their own genocide applied all over Asia Minor.
@AV_Facts@i345201 My little revisionist, Ottoman rule is not the same thing as every Muslim civilian being an “occupier.” Many Muslim families in the Peloponnese had lived there for generations. Imperial sovereignty does not turn civilians into legitimate targets. That distinction matters
@nihatozmen7@Tourkos_m Küçük revizyonistim, demek sıra “Türk değilsen ajansın, Türksen ruhunu kaybettin” seviyesine geldi. Tarih konuşurken kimlik testi yapmaya başladıysan argüman gerçekten bitmiştir. Paranoya, kaynak değildir.
@AV_Facts@i345201 My little revisionist, you just proved my point. Yes, they were Greeks—and many Greek communities had lived in Anatolia for centuries. That is exactly why equating Anatolian Greeks with the invading Greek army of 1919 is historically absurd. Thanks for the assist.
@nihatozmen7@Tourkos_m Küçük revizyonistim, argüman bitince “Atina’ya, Tel Aviv’e satıldın” masalı başlıyor demek. Kaynak yok, cevap yok, sadece hakaret. Teşekkürler; tartışmayı kimin kaybettiğini kendin gösterdin.