As promised, here's my first attempt to reverse engineer profitable live Hyperliquid vaults (will not be the last). Put quite a bit of work into this, so I hope this is an enjoyable read. If I made mistakes, please point them out! https://t.co/bc4K7n0eop
Can someone smarter than me answer please:
Is trend following effectively just a synthetic long straddle where you pay some form of (what is basically) theta decay on low vol months?
Been looking into other HL vaults that trend follow and this seems to be the case.
Am I missing something?
@sigma_founder Great explanation, thank you! Was playing around with a vault and noticed that when I fit it, it looked interesting. Appreciate you taking the time to answer!
As promised, here's my first attempt to reverse engineer profitable live Hyperliquid vaults (will not be the last). Put quite a bit of work into this, so I hope this is an enjoyable read. If I made mistakes, please point them out! https://t.co/bc4K7n0eop
@mempoolwindow Slip + taker fees on entry was used so queue position doesnโt really matter for my interpretation. Using maker fills set a fixed % below probably does make sense becuase then you only get selected in the event of a quick dip which I think would be indicative of forced selling.
@TheApeDesk Time based exit makes sure youโre not in a position for longer than x days, while the short term nature of intraday forced sell flow makes funding not a huge deal
It only works because so capital inefficient. You can scale to ~10% vol and itโll hit -13/15% drawdowns but this is just selling cascade protection daily until you punt a large amount in one go.
Would be fun to test with another strategy layered โ something like short trash, long good coins (mainly just cross sectional momentum) to see if that gives a better eq curve
@enchiriDYOR@FMChain_ Yeah, as it turned out itโs a risk premia. Wonโt ever prob get all of it but managed to get something very similar so pleased with the result!
No. With taker we'd get filled on all trades (assuming small-ish size but that a req for this anyway bc blow up risk). There's a good chance though (will actually model this now, you got me thinking) but that the trades the vault's maker orders missed are positive selection bias because they aren't getting filled unless price makes a sharp drop through their level (sign of forced selling)
Will test and let you know
@dxyzor The edge has slowly whittled down over the years. Strategies change and cycle all the time, itโs just about being adaptable and always innovating
The vault is real, and has been live for the last 7 months: https://t.co/xN7y0QWNha
This is the vault for anyone interested. @FMChain_ was kind enough to reach out and let me know it was his companyโs vault when he saw the PnL shape from my last post, and then discuss with me once I had more data while I was writing this up.