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@Glinner If she were walking it back, then she would come out and request that it be changed. She isn't doing that. She is being a coward and just looking after her own "legacy".
She doesn't regret it.
Her "different time" defence is logically weak: it conflates (perceived) lack of public debate in 2013 with absence of foreseeable risks, ignoring that predicting erosion of sex-based rights was basic due diligence for any legislator amending discrimination law. They were warned at the time.
It is intellectual cowardice from her. No call to repeal the changes, restore biological definitions, or support fixes for issues like single-sex spaces and Tickle v Giggle - only an attempt to distance herself from consequences without admitting error.
FMD. "our housing system has taken your taxpayer dollars and used them to subsidise investors to bid out first home buyers". Communists.
She’s talking as if all money is the government’s money first, and that anything not taxed is a “subsidy.” That’s the rhetorical trick being played here.
Income belongs to the earner.
The government takes a portion via tax.
If the government doesn’t take some portion, that is not spending — it’s simply not taking.
And that leads us to the real issue here with people like Clare - they see everything you earn to be considered government money first, then any tax cut is a “gift,” and any deduction is a “subsidy.”
Calling it "a fucking joke" and "pure envy" is just ad hominem dodging. You didn't refute a single point about electoral risk, female voters shifting right, or why this timing hands Labor the wedge they want. Principles are fine, but pretending caution = gatekeeping doesn't make the numbers or history disappear. Weak response.
@KatyKray73 I don't mind the swearing; in fact, we should have more of it, but FMD, the level of delusion and b.s. is off the scale. Surprised he can walk and breathe at the same time.
@matt_barrie The female vs male is interesting. I get the SDA amendment policy - but those from ALP and Greens I'm pretty sure have ON pegged as far-right, which, in their minds, are toxic males?
ANIC, spare us the historical fan-fiction. Seasonal Makassan traders boiling sea cucumbers on northern beaches for a few months a year centuries ago were not 'part of Australia's story' in any way that grants over a million modern Muslim migrants special immunity from criticism. They built nothing permanent.
Afghan cameleers came after British settlement and helped as workers, not founders. This is not your ancestral homeland; modern Australia was created by British settlement, federation, and Western institutions. You're citizens by choice, not co-founders.
Pauline Hanson didn't 'vilify an entire community.' She called out Islam as incompatible, a 'social cancer', with specific evidence: terror watch lists, plots, Bondi massacre, foreign fighters, hate preachers, and polling on sharia attitudes seen across Western Muslim communities.
Most Muslims aren't terrorists, but the patterns of extremism, grooming gangs elsewhere, parallel societies, and refusal to fully assimilate aren't 'a criminal fringe', they're disproportionately linked to the ideology. Pretending otherwise is gaslighting.
Your 'real pressures are just housing and cost of living' line is a cowardly red herring. High immigration exacerbates housing shortages. Mass low-skilled inflows from incompatible cultures such as yours, strain welfare, cohesion, and trust. Australia thrived as a high-trust, monocultural (under Western values) society, not by importing monocultural enclaves that demand tolerance while offering none in return.
You oppose violence 'without reservation'? Then loudly and repeatedly denounce Islamist terror, October 7 celebrations, sharia supremacism, apostasy penalties, and the supremacist doctrines fueling it all, instead of crying 'Islamophobia' every time someone notices.
Holding 'strong opinions' isn't the issue; doctrines that treat non-Muslims as lesser, women as subordinate, and democracy as temporary aren't 'ordinary beliefs' in a liberal democracy.
Australia doesn't owe your community 'multicultural harmony' at the expense of its own survival.
Integrate fully, respect the founding culture, or fuck off. This is our home first. Live by Australian rules or find somewhere that fits your values better. No special privileges from temporary visitors 300 years ago.
ANIC, spare us the historical fan-fiction. Seasonal Makassan traders boiling sea cucumbers on northern beaches for a few months a year centuries ago were not 'part of Australia's story' in any way that grants over a million modern Muslim migrants special immunity from criticism. They built nothing permanent.
Afghan cameleers came after British settlement and helped as workers, not founders. This is not your ancestral homeland; modern Australia was created by British settlement, federation, and Western institutions. You're citizens by choice, not co-founders.
Pauline Hanson didn't 'vilify an entire community.' She called out Islam as incompatible, a 'social cancer', with specific evidence: terror watch lists, plots, Bondi massacre, foreign fighters, hate preachers, and polling on sharia attitudes seen across Western Muslim communities.
Most Muslims aren't terrorists, but the patterns of extremism, grooming gangs elsewhere, parallel societies, and refusal to fully assimilate aren't 'a criminal fringe', they're disproportionately linked to the ideology. Pretending otherwise is gaslighting.
Your 'real pressures are just housing and cost of living' line is a cowardly red herring. High immigration exacerbates housing shortages. Mass low-skilled inflows from incompatible cultures such as yours, strain welfare, cohesion, and trust. Australia thrived as a high-trust, monocultural (under Western values) society, not by importing monocultural enclaves that demand tolerance while offering none in return.
You oppose violence 'without reservation'? Then loudly and repeatedly denounce Islamist terror, October 7 celebrations, sharia supremacism, apostasy penalties, and the supremacist doctrines fueling it all, instead of crying 'Islamophobia' every time someone notices.
Holding 'strong opinions' isn't the issue; doctrines that treat non-Muslims as lesser, women as subordinate, and democracy as temporary aren't 'ordinary beliefs' in a liberal democracy.
Australia doesn't owe your community 'multicultural harmony' at the expense of its own survival.
Integrate fully, respect the founding culture, or fuck off. This is our home first. Live by Australian rules or find somewhere that fits your values better. No special privileges from temporary visitors 300 years ago.
@oxign@DrNeilStone Obama gave Iran 400 million of its own money back and then paid Iran 1.3 billion of American money. It released 100B of frozen Iran assets. Trump is only releasing 25B of Irans assets. Maybe math is not your strong suite.