Being Perceived Despiser

Please stop perceiving me.

[Being Perceived Despiser @AvoidPerception]

@HansFiene Pr. Wendorf helped a woman divorce her husband without any justification, then issued her a call as a DCE after she was excommunicated from her home congregation. He refused to speak to her husband. He was just re-elected as Area C VP of the Texas District.

[Brian Sauvé @Brian_Sauve]

It’s amazing how much you will see marital conflict diminish if you will learn to stop taking the first invitation to offense—and choose instead to cover it with mercy.

Then the second. And third.

God is more merciful to you even than this, by the way.

[Matthew E. Cochran @matt_e_cochran]

@CollinMadsen Somehow, young marriage is more scandalous to modern Christians than fornication is, despite the latter being a sin and the former not.

[Being Perceived Despiser @AvoidPerception]

@ChrisRojas4081 @AquinasApologia @RazorFist @MetzUAC1530 @Brynsbeaver @StChad_1517 Okay, but it also includes actual sin, not just original sin. Do you disagree with the statement I offered?

[Being Perceived Despiser @AvoidPerception]

@RogueCenturion I don’t think this argument follows. It has never been (mechanically) difficult to kill an infant, and child sacrifice has existed since antiquity. Yet societies regularly concerned themselves with maintaining a legacy through their children. I don’t see how BC changes this.

[Being Perceived Despiser @AvoidPerception]

@ChrisRojas4081 @AquinasApologia @RazorFist @MetzUAC1530 @Brynsbeaver @StChad_1517 I don’t see any warrant to believe, contrary to Paul in Romans 3, that it is truly possible.

Would you agree to the following statement?

As a theoretical proposition it is possible, but the reality of sin and human nature is such that it cannot happen in reality.

[Being Perceived Despiser @AvoidPerception]

@bonesforsales This is fine, but 1) I think it is more epistemically clear to acknowledge that God’s Word teaches this in itself rather than working backwards from justification, and 2) this is a different argument than what you said in the OP.

[Being Perceived Despiser @AvoidPerception]

@ChrisRojas4081 @AquinasApologia @RazorFist @MetzUAC1530 @Brynsbeaver @StChad_1517 Is it possible for one to be without sin in this life?

[Being Perceived Despiser @AvoidPerception]

@ChrisRojas4081 @AquinasApologia @RazorFist @MetzUAC1530 @Brynsbeaver @StChad_1517 Can one be considered righteous if there is yet sin in him?

[Being Perceived Despiser @AvoidPerception]

@bonesforsales 1) The doctrine of SS is not about what does/not justify, but that the Scriptures are the only final, infallible rule and norm for faith and life.

2) Your argument as laid out here is not that SS depends on the *doctrine* of justification, but on the *fact* of justification.

[Being Perceived Despiser @AvoidPerception]

@ChrisRojas4081 @AquinasApologia @RazorFist @MetzUAC1530 @Brynsbeaver @StChad_1517 How does one go from unrighteous before God to righteous before God?

[Being Perceived Despiser @AvoidPerception]

@ChrisRojas4081 @AquinasApologia @RazorFist @MetzUAC1530 @Brynsbeaver @StChad_1517 You asked for a definition of justification, which I gave as “being righteous before God.”

You now say that works do not effect justification at first, but they do once it has already been established.

So your position is that works do effect justification.

[Being Perceived Despiser @AvoidPerception]

@ChrisRojas4081 @AquinasApologia @RazorFist @MetzUAC1530 @Brynsbeaver @StChad_1517 Then the Roman Catholic Church holds you anathema under Canon XXIV of the 6th session of the Council of Trent.

[Seamus 🐗🗿 @huss_john_83]

It’s sobering to think that 1/4 of all Mexicans exist in my country and would cease to exist in my country if we just stopped paying them to be here.

[Mack @kenzietuff]

There’s a disturbing idea that things you don’t necessarily remember clearly won’t change anything about you as well, which is obviously false. How we treat children from a young age shapes the rest of their lives. This is one of many reasons why daycare is so damaging.

[Being Perceived Despiser @AvoidPerception]

@IFFFMEISTER Why are only minorities allowed to find community + local demography?

[Being Perceived Despiser @AvoidPerception]

@bonesforsales The doctrine of Justification is in our confessions, but the argument that the doctrine of Sola Scriptura is based upon it is not. That’s the whole point.

[Being Perceived Despiser @AvoidPerception]

@ChrisRojas4081 @AquinasApologia @RazorFist @MetzUAC1530 @Brynsbeaver @StChad_1517 “Effect” meaning “be the instrumental cause of,” and “justification” meaning “being made righteous before God.”

[Being Perceived Despiser @AvoidPerception]

@bonesforsales An argument, even implicit, must be something you can locate and show. What you are describing is called an inference or conclusion, and it is on your part, not on the part of the Confessions.

[Being Perceived Despiser @AvoidPerception]

@ChrisRojas4081 @AquinasApologia @RazorFist @MetzUAC1530 @Brynsbeaver @StChad_1517 Earlier, you said the moral law is part of the Jewish law, the works of which do not justify. So do you now hold that works do not effect our justification?

[Being Perceived Despiser @AvoidPerception]

@ChrisRojas4081 @AquinasApologia @RazorFist @MetzUAC1530 @Brynsbeaver @StChad_1517 Because he constantly speaks of how it is faith which justifies, not obedience to the Law, and that violation of the Law is sin, not just a failure to be Jewish. If the Law Paul was referring to was the Jewish Law, failing to keep it would not be a sin.