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Pashtun G2b1a - G-M283 thread: Ancestral path (Yfull): G2b>M3115>M377>Y12304>Y12297>Y12292>M3124>M283 https://t.co/w0bnrya33t G2b-M283 with a TMRCA around 300 CE accounts for roughly 10–15% of Pashtun Y-DNA and is carried by millions of Pashtun males, with the highest frequencies found among the Karlani tribes (>60%). It is also present at lower frequencies in other Pashtun tribes, but in many cases this can be traced to Karlani substrates. For example, its presence among the Yusufzai may reflect the assimilation of Dilazak populations, while among the Ghilzai in Loya Paktia it may result from the incorporation of Karlani groups. All identified living carriers of the Y-DNA haplogroup G2b in the region of South-Central Asia are carriers of the descending lineage G-M3115 < G-M377 < G-Y12297 with a TMRCA around 4400 BCE (G2b1a on ISOGG). G-M377 carriers came out of a long bottleneck, with all carrying a common paternal ancestor only around 6500 BCE, meaning that about 13,500 years of paternal cousin lineages seem not to have survived until the present. Unfortunately there are, as of this writing, no ancient skeletal remains found of a carrier of this Y-DNA haplogroup. Based on regions where it reaches peak diversity today, it seems to have originated close to it’s paternal origin among Pre-Pottery Neolithic farmers in the northern Zagros Mountains and the Iranian Plateau. The later history of G-Y12292 and its parent clade, Pre-G-M283, remains unclear. The presence of G-Y12292, with a TMRCA of around 3400 BCE, among Ashkenazi Jews, South Italians, Rushanis and Shughnis, together with its apparent absence in South Asia, currently suggests an origin on the Iranian Plateau and a possible association with early Iranic populations. At the same time, the clade is nearly absent among present-day Iranians and lowland Tajiks. This may simply reflect limited sampling, founder effects, or population bottlenecks on the Iranian Plateau rather than its actual historical distribution. It is also worth mentioning that G2b-M377 was absent in the huge Akbari et al. (2026) dataset with more than 10.000 samples published this year. So it is also possible Pre-G-M283 was already local to the Suleiman mountains/Afghan highlands and the Jewish G2b is directly from Afghanistan or Tajikistan, but based on our current understanding of Iranic haplogroups in Jewish population most of their Iranic haplos seem to be mediated via West Iranics in and around Mesopotamia.

Afghan_DNA's tweet photo. Pashtun G2b1a - G-M283 thread:

Ancestral path (Yfull):
G2b>M3115>M377>Y12304>Y12297>Y12292>M3124>M283
https://t.co/w0bnrya33t

G2b-M283 with a TMRCA around 300 CE accounts for roughly 10–15% of Pashtun Y-DNA and is carried by millions of Pashtun males, with the highest frequencies found among the Karlani tribes (>60%). It is also present at lower frequencies in other Pashtun tribes, but in many cases this can be traced to Karlani substrates. For example, its presence among the Yusufzai may reflect the assimilation of Dilazak populations, while among the Ghilzai in Loya Paktia it may result from the incorporation of Karlani groups.

All identified living carriers of the Y-DNA haplogroup G2b in the region of South-Central Asia are carriers of the descending lineage G-M3115 < G-M377 < G-Y12297 with a TMRCA around 4400 BCE (G2b1a on ISOGG).

G-M377 carriers came out of a long bottleneck, with all carrying a common paternal ancestor only around 6500 BCE, meaning that about 13,500 years of paternal cousin lineages seem not to have survived until the present. Unfortunately there are, as of this writing, no ancient skeletal remains found of a carrier of this Y-DNA haplogroup. Based on regions where it reaches peak diversity today, it seems to have originated close to it’s paternal origin among Pre-Pottery Neolithic farmers in the northern Zagros Mountains and the Iranian Plateau.

The later history of G-Y12292 and its parent clade, Pre-G-M283, remains unclear. The presence of G-Y12292, with a TMRCA of around 3400 BCE, among Ashkenazi Jews, South Italians, Rushanis and Shughnis, together with its apparent absence in South Asia, currently suggests an origin on the Iranian Plateau and a possible association with early Iranic populations. At the same time, the clade is nearly absent among present-day Iranians and lowland Tajiks. This may simply reflect limited sampling, founder effects, or population bottlenecks on the Iranian Plateau rather than its actual historical distribution. It is also worth mentioning that G2b-M377 was absent in the huge Akbari et al. (2026) dataset with more than 10.000 samples published this year.

So it is also possible Pre-G-M283 was already local to the Suleiman mountains/Afghan highlands and the Jewish G2b is directly from Afghanistan or Tajikistan, but based on our current understanding of Iranic haplogroups in Jewish population most of their Iranic haplos seem to be mediated via West Iranics in and around Mesopotamia.

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"The History of Hossein the Kurd", a manuscript in the Persian language. Matenadaran, Yerevan, Armenia, 19th century. Hossein the Kurd is the main character of the adventure epic "The Tale of Hossein the Kurd of Shabistar", popular in the Middle East. The story takes place in Iran during the reign of the powerful Shah Abbas I the Great (late 16th - early 17th century) of the Safavid dynasty. Hossein the Kurd is a legendary warrior and folk hero who, along with his fellow ayyars (medieval volunteer fighters and protectors of the poor), performs heroic deeds, fights the Shah's enemies (the Uzbeks and the Ottomans), and restores justice.

caucasusvisuals's tweet photo. "The History of Hossein the Kurd", a manuscript in the Persian language. Matenadaran, Yerevan, Armenia, 19th century.

Hossein the Kurd is the main character of the adventure epic "The Tale of Hossein the Kurd of Shabistar", popular in the Middle East. The story takes place in Iran during the reign of the powerful Shah Abbas I the Great (late 16th - early 17th century) of the Safavid dynasty.

Hossein the Kurd is a legendary warrior and folk hero who, along with his fellow ayyars (medieval volunteer fighters and protectors of the poor), performs heroic deeds, fights the Shah's enemies (the Uzbeks and the Ottomans), and restores justice.

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@BalochGenica1 I believe there is also Askani”results from Sarbaaz sequenced by the Big-700 test level and confirmed so far to the sub-clade E-CTS9997.not sure if this is the same individual or his relatives! This clade has high probability of most recent common ancestry from Arabian Peninsula.

Gedrosia_DNA's tweet photo. @BalochGenica1 I believe there is also Askani”results from Sarbaaz sequenced by the Big-700 test level and confirmed so far to the sub-clade E-CTS9997.not sure if this is the same individual or his relatives! This clade has high probability of most recent common ancestry from Arabian Peninsula. https://t.co/RqDhKbi0yq

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