Mathematicians are angry at AI solving their problems, and it's easy to dismiss this as gatekeeping.
"A proof is a proof. They just want to keep their jobs / prestige / fun !"
But I do think mathematicians have a point, and I'll try to explain using old Civilization-style maps
@jogothy@52_65_64 Is it more clear that way ? (click to see the full image) The ... means we go on like this for every integer, so 4, 5, 6 etc to infinity
The Σ symbol is the greek equivalent of the letter S, because it's the first letter of the word "sum", because as you can see it's a sum
@Tabletop_James@littmath let's say Alice goes (1,2,3...) and Bob does the same, but starts with box 100 (100,1,2...). Who has the advantage here? Alice clearly does: the only way Bob can ever win is if there is a present in box 100, and with 26 presents over 100 boxes, the odds are against this.
@BudvarCat@martinmbauer LaTeX notes allowed me to rearrange them later to make it clearer, and to share it to absent people. I just had a notebook for the diagrams that I later draw with TikZ
@Graymanland@dagwieers@adriendecroy@MiguelMadeira11@Anthony_Bonato But in math we don't count. Counting is a matter of the physical world. In math, we can instead for instance talk about bijections between sets and cardinality. We then doesn't have to do anything endlessly.
@Graymanland@dagwieers@adriendecroy@MiguelMadeira11@Anthony_Bonato What do you mean "endless" ?
2 and any 2-1/n that you can think of are perfectly defined.
You can also order the pairs of natural numbers (n,m) by lexicographic number.
Then, represent every natural number m by the pair (0,m).
Then you define infinity by (1,0).
@Graymanland@dagwieers@adriendecroy@MiguelMadeira11@Anthony_Bonato The other idea behind my question is that there whether you can have n apples or not in your hand isn't relevant to n existing in math.
Math isn't necessarily about thing you can manifest in the physical world.
@Graymanland@dagwieers@adriendecroy@MiguelMadeira11@Anthony_Bonato That way, you can represent the natural number n by it associated real number 2 - 1/n.
So that way, 2 is bigger than every 2 - 1/n you can make. The idea of infinity is just to represent a situation like that where you have something bigger than any member of an endless sequence
@Graymanland@dagwieers@adriendecroy@MiguelMadeira11@Anthony_Bonato You can define infinity like that.
Look at the sequence
2 - 1/1
2 - 1/2
2 - 1/3
2 - 1/4
etc
2 - 1/n for each natural number n.
I'm not talking about limit here, just the sequence.
Each member of this sequence is smaller than the number 2.