@robertfoster77@DKingTelegraph@TelegraphSport I mean, doing it week in, week out and being the best player in the championship winning team would also suggest he’s doing it when it matters too but curious to see your list!
He was the best player on the pitch vs Italy until he got taken off. Played decent in the champions league final in a side two kicks away from winning it.
It was also 1-0 until he got taken off vs Argentina so I don’t really understand “standing up” in that context.
Also check he was MOTM in both ties vs Real Madrid and in the champions league semi vs Atleti this season. Pretty big games to play well in
@Garyb28Gary@DKingTelegraph@TelegraphSport Depends on the leagues and countries you win them in. Significantly easier in some places (Scotland has been a 2 horse race forever)
It’s not a stretch to say a good manager doesn’t hover at a 28% win ratio at multiple clubs.
@centmafc Treated like an oracle by Liverpool fans *
They are just looking for something to distract them for their clubs awful season and impending rebuild years.
@repapjr@Rimbeux@DKingTelegraph@TelegraphSport Hard to compare eras Philip - game is so much different like you said.
Cant question his career as a player, world class for his time and the medals to back it up.
Think as a pundit he has some ideas about players he really doubles down on that isnt fair
@Garyb28Gary@DKingTelegraph@TelegraphSport If you want to put weight into winning in Scotland, sure
The other 15 years - 7 clubs, 42% win percentage, Newcastle and Southampton 28/29%
6th place with Liverpool
Numerous sackings, hardly successful outside of a few cups
@Rimbeux@DKingTelegraph@TelegraphSport Agree started as a CB - definitely adapted his game since then to be a 100million dollar midfielder
Some of the best midfielders in the epl (eg de bruyne, gerrard) were amazing dribblers as well as ball players so I disagree with that point
“He’s a centre half”
I mean he’s the heartbeat in midfield of the second best team in Europe and best team in England
“Midfielders shouldn’t run with the ball”
Since when?
Yes we want midfielders to be supreme ball players but for them to not have legs and go past people is an absurd comment
Do I go on?
@Begos7777@DKingTelegraph@TelegraphSport I agree his OOP and defensive work is his greatest strength as a midfielder, however - good short and long range passing, excellent driving runs, great ball striking and excellent set pieces. I don’t know maybe watch an Arsenal game 🤷🏻♂️
@Rimbeux@DKingTelegraph@TelegraphSport You would think the same of people like Scholes and he thinks Tonali is better than Rice and Mainoo needed more time 🤣
If Souness knew so much about midfielders now he might have signed some better ones in his time as a manager and still be on mainstream TV as a pundit.
I think being the heartbeat of the second best team in Europe, the best in England and spending 100 million pounds show they think he has fewer limitations than Souness thinks.
If Souness had better talent ID he might not have been such a failure at the majority of his managerial posts.
@skengdr1@DKingTelegraph@TelegraphSport Outside of rangers
7 clubs in 15 years. Numerous sackings.
Notoriously good statistics of a successful manager hey 🤣🤣
@skengdr1@DKingTelegraph@TelegraphSport You’re welcome to put weight into winning the majority of his titles in Scotland if you like 🤣
42% win percentage as a manager. 28% at Newcastle and 29% at Southampton. Awful at Liverpool bar an FA cup and sacked about everywhere else after a short stint.