@shigatsuyouka I'm getting like 300 quote tweets calling for me to be shot on sights because I dare say that a hastily written shallow telenovella style novel with one-dimensional characters is slop. These people don't read.
@nationlessghoul but within the story itself, he is very clearly different from everybody else in many ways, from his childhood. Whereas the Underground Man isn't supposed to be different from anyone, except that he is honest with himself.
While Dazai IS great, this is ultimately why somebody like the underground man is much more universal and relatable than Yozo. Yozo is just clearly special and extraordinary. The underground man is merely the logical conclusion of beliefs many people in society hold.
sad Japanese man literature (Mishima, Dazai etc) is so effortlessly self-absorbed and raw and convincing that you really have to be careful with it. Read No Longer Human at the wrong time and you'll be thinking yeahhh. Drunk and sexy and sad and smarter than everyone. Thats me
@RachelXReads It's not slop because it was serialized. It's slop because the characters are one-dimensional, the themes are inconsistent, the plot is shallow, and the dialogue and writing is unnecessarily verbose.
@todt_winter Empire collapsed, but UK is one of the most prosperous countries in the history of the world.
A ponzi scheme is bad because those at the bottom are impoverished. People at the bottom are not impoverished, they have never been more prosperous.
Biggest indicator of below 75 IQ is believing in the Malthusian Trap. People have been saying "we can't continue growing like this" since the industrial revolution, and yet we are still more prosperous today than we were 20 years ago.
@todt_winter Finance, banking, borrowing, debt ect. has existed for hundreds of years, yet nothing has collapsed. The US is the world strongest economy for the last almost 100 years, despite being hugely in debt. Debt isn't bad in and of itself, if you use it wisely
500+ quote tweets but not a single argument. Just because something is 900 pages doesn't mean it's not slop. His characters are one-dimensional. Plot filled with holes. He mixed up character names. No consistent themes. Shallow writing. It's entertaining yes, but still slop.
We should stop pretending page length is an indicator of how difficult it is to get through a book. Monte Cristo is like 900 pages but is basically litslop so you get through it easily. A soap opera telenovella isn't complex just because it has 500 episoded either
People soying out over this take just confirms that the average person just hasn't engaged with much literature in general. They just see a book with many pages from the 19th century, and automatically think it therefore must be difficult to read. Page count =/= depth.
We should stop pretending page length is an indicator of how difficult it is to get through a book. Monte Cristo is like 900 pages but is basically litslop so you get through it easily. A soap opera telenovella isn't complex just because it has 500 episoded either
@Barbanova_ Yes? Slop is not the same as bad. Monte Cristo is entertaining. It's just extremely shallow, has little to no deeper themes, is entirely predictable, and its characters are one-note.
@bagelsatellite gigaslop, the plot made no sense, it's a literal telenovella, all the characters are shallow as hell, Dumas even sometimes mixes up character names. Allegedly he wrote it in like 2 weeks