Beesafree

Electrician from Michigan - Hobbyist in art, programming, debating and gaming. I'm an Atheist willing to discuss religion anytime.

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I now have the unevolved member of every pokemon family, Perfect 5IVs, Shiny, and with proof. Next is to clone them and make them all battle ready.
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@povcops what kind of ninjutsu is she trying to preform with those hand signs?

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@capos_00 lol, whatever dude, attack my character instead of my logic, good for you.

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@loohhooo I have looked at all your "proof" where's the proof he raped you? that's a serious claim and you have no proof. and unlike you i won't block you from responding, I support free speech and open communication

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@Voltrix77 @capos_00 My stance is more nuanced than that

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@capos_00 leading her to believe they would this time. I do not believe there was a convo beforehand about pulling out, i think it was an assumption on looh's part. all parties are innocent in this scenario. do you have proof that pokes any holes in this timeline?

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@capos_00 Looh only figured out she had a reaction to plan b after the fact, it was impossible for simple to know that beforehand. They had used plan b before, and Looh mentions that they used the pull out method the entire time they were together except once

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@capos_00 I was hoping it would lead to a different point but it didn't, it truly is the only point i care about though. shitty people do shitty things to eachother in shitty situations. although rape is unforgivable, which is why i care about that topic.

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@capos_00 They were posing an argument, so i was going to allow them to concede the point. They didn't. but if you look at the comment i responded to they said "devil's advocate here, let's say simple did not do any of the rape shit.", i was allowing this hypothetical to the situation

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@yoyo_stinky @capos_00 @loohhooo Isn't she the one digging up a 4 year old doc?
My view is they were both contributing to a toxic relationship and were horrible/miserable together, and they both made bad decisions. My issue is that rape isn't a bad decision, it's a crime, and crimes need proof.

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@yoyo_stinky @capos_00 @loohhooo Regardless there is too much gray here, but sure simple was the only person responsible in your mind, looh had no agency

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@yoyo_stinky @capos_00 @loohhooo Why would simple assume she would take plan b? Even if there was an agreement to pull out, why is this on the man? Is this not a team sport? I think both not forcing the use of a condom in an act where ejaculation is the goal implies that they are alright with cum going places

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@yoyo_stinky @capos_00 @loohhooo I am literally not even convinced it is rape in cali, by some stretch of the imagination the alleged action might be sexual assault, could you link me the definition you are using? We have to define our terms to be productive.

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@yoyo_stinky @capos_00 @loohhooo If you look at one of the other threads I did simply disagree, can you give me a definition of rape that includes what you think simple did? I am curious to learn what else you consider to be rape. A butt slap? A kiss? Touching her shoulder?

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@yoyo_stinky @capos_00 @loohhooo The reason I am laser focused on the rape accusation is because I believe it is the most important one and I am trying to avoid what people often resort to, called the "gish gallop", if you concede that it most likely didn't happen or wasn't rape I would be willing to move on

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@capos_00 I looked, I have called him a liar when the truth was "you are providing an unproven claim which i should assume is false". this is pedantic at this point. prove the claim.

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@capos_00 Yeah i imagine so, i imagine i actually have before

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@capos_00 In all reality i am not equivocating "Lying" and "don't know", i used the wrong words on a site with a character limit, i still stand by innocent until proven guilty

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@capos_00 I am fine with treating simpleflips unproven claims as lies too, but the last time simple spoke about her was 2021, 4 years ago, and looh brought it up this week. Looh is making a serious claim that requires serious proof

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@capos_00 Alright i'll change my stance to "Looh has presented a claim she has yet unproven therefore we must assume the unproven claim as false until she can provide evidence to the contrary." Sorry i shortened it to "She lied", where does this get us? nuance?