Beth Cavete

I write about leaving deception to discern the true Gospel from false. Sheep-loving wolf-hater. Cleansing, not deconstruction. Wife/mom/Bibliophile.

[Beth Cavete @BethCavete]

No greater joy, my friends.
No greater joy. 3 Jn 1:4

(My valentines, a little late)
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[Beth Cavete @BethCavete]

Exactly

[Alisa Childers @alisa_childers]

As I've pondered this over the last few days, I keep thinking about something Clay Jones wrote. In his book, "Why Does God Allow Evil?", Jones points out that when we think of genocide, we think of demented psychopaths running around on murderous rampages. In reality, genocide is mostly committed by normal everyday people including moms, dads, and sweet grandmas who bake cookies for the bake sale.

Jones writes: "It has been fascinating to me that absolutely every genocide researcher I have ever read (and I’ve read a lot of them) and absolutely every genocide victim I’ve ever read—to a person—concludes that genocide is what the average person does...

Professor and Holocaust survivor Fred E. Katz sums up exactly what kind of person participated in the Holocaust. He wrote that 'only a tiny proportion' of the 'massive killings are attributable to the actions of those people we call criminals, or crazy people, or socially alienated people, or even, people we identify as evil people.' Rather, they were actually 'carried out by plain folk in the population—ordinary people, like you and me.'

Katz asks, Who carried out the plans of the 'Hitlers and Stalins'?

His conclusion: 'Ordinary people, like you and me.'

Then he asks, 'Who provides the intelligence, the brain power, the orderly thinking to translate crazy philosophies into a practical course of action?

Ordinary people, like you and me.'

Finally, 'Who provides the quiet sustained effort, the plain hard work it takes to carry out huge programs of murderous action?

Ordinary people, like you and me.'"

One of the reasons the post below is so chilling and horrifically evil is because it is so casual, ordinary, and "nice."

May God have mercy on us.

[Beth Cavete @BethCavete]

Realizing the earth isn’t flat or that we orbit the sun isn’t a realization about one thing; it’s a realization about thinking wrongly about everything

Beginning our thought processes with human or female autonomy rather than intrinsic human worth is one of those devastating presuppositions that lead to endless errors, not just one.

That’s why most won’t ask the questions you’re asking. Pulling the thread unravels the worldview, and realizing one’s thinking is aligned with nazism or genocided for instance, not by reactionaries but by reason, for most, is too costly.

[Lila Rose @LilaGraceRose]

This was a devastating story to see. Every life is precious. No child should receive the death penalty for having a disability. This is why we need to ban abortion. Rest in peace, sweet baby.

[Beth Cavete @BethCavete]

@CarolynUpNorth @KristanHawkins AMAZING!!

[Beth Cavete @BethCavete]

@bebookled Are you a fully false teacher or just mean?

[Beth Cavete @BethCavete]

@bebookled I can’t imagine much more unbiblical advice

Single ladies, seek first the kingdom and its righteousness

Not domestic duties or husbands

And let the rest be added by God Almighty

[Beth Cavete @BethCavete]

@CrankyFed But have you tried putting, "Looking for a lovely gardener I can support through weeding. You harvest, I will cook" in your profile??? 😍

[Jonathon Van Maren @JVanMaren]

"While nature only allows the few most healthy and resistant out of a large number of living organisms to survive in the struggle for life, people restrict the number of births and then try to keep alive what has been born, without consideration of its real value and its inner merit. Humaneness is therefore only the slave of weakness and thereby in truth the most cruel destroyer of human existence." -- Adolf Hitler, 1928

[Beth Cavete @BethCavete]

@DanBurmawy Brother, you proclaim the name of Jesus. If you're His, you have His Spirit alive within you. You need to know that you know what you would do in this man's place.

[Kristan Hawkins @KristanHawkins]

The New York Times reported (LINK below) that some prenatal genetic screenings are wrong nearly 80% of the time.

Not 8%. Nearly 80%.

Yet, families are handed these results in fear-filled moments and told to make life-or-death decisions about their children.

From Pew: Non-invasive genetic prenatal tests for 5 rare genetic conditions can return false positives 80% to 93% of the time. (LINK also below)

[Jennifer Coffindaffer @CoffindafferFBI]

When I was pregnant with our second child, her test for Down syndrome was positive. My husband and I discussed it for about 2 minutes. We are Catholic so there was no consideration to abort her. We just knew our lives would change. We bought books, spoke to parents of Down syndrome children, and prayed.

When she was born, she did not have Down syndrome, to our surprise. The test was wrong. Tests are often wrong, we later learned. In fact, 10% of positive NIPT results for Down syndrome are false positives.

Our daughter just finished her second year of law school and has thrived. She is my best friend and I don't know how I could be whole without her.

By brother suffers from Cerebral Palsey. He just turned 50 but is really about 12, mentally. We love him so.

They are both gifts.

Everyone has to make their own decision, and only God can judge, but taking a life purposefully with the rationale that they may not be perfect makes no sense to me, but that's just me.

Admittedly, your post gave me great pause. Oh what you may have missed out on no matter the outcome because you were worried about health issues.

What happens if your next child has the same prenatal diagnosis?

#Downsyndrome
#Trisomy21

[Beth Cavete @BethCavete]

@iratusmater Me: Sorry my house smells like wet dog. I have a…wet dog.

[Beth Cavete @BethCavete]

I have been there (taken to rudimentary hospital due to reaction) on a distant island. So scary!!! Thank God you are ok!!!!

P.s. if it’s not a one off, and strange immune reactions are something that you find increasing, that was my story for years, but finally found help this last year. If you are dealing with anything like that, pls feel free to reach out ❤️‍🩹

[Guy Benson @guypbenson]

This is Todd “Let’s Roll” Beamer, who died heroically while trying to retake United Flight 93 from Al Qaeda terrorists on 9/11. His final resting place, is in Cranbury, NJ — where he was living with his wife and children before his murder. Cranbury is located in NJ-12, where the new Democratic nominee for Congress is Adam Hamawy.

Hamawy was a close associate and translator to Omar Abdel-Rahman, aka the ‘Blind Sheikh,’ an arch terrorist convicted of masterminding multiple plots against targets in NYC — including the World Trade Center. Hamawy testified at Adbel-Rahman’s trial, as a defense witness.

It has also been reported that Hamawy traveled to Bosnia to volunteer at an organization that was later unmasked as an Al Qaeda front group.

One of Hamawy’s loudest and most high-profile supporters and endorsers has openly declared that America deserved the 9/11 attacks.

Hamawy is now the prohibitive frontrunner to represent Todd Beamer’s district in the United States Congress.

[Beth Cavete @BethCavete]

This is the exact right question to ask next. Just not first.

But let me start by answering it. Short answer is, we can’t, on our own. We aren’t born equipped to obey God or parents. We are born “equipped” to be ruled by our own impulses. Being otherwise will take massive, sacrificial intervention: training. Training is the outworking of merciful love: from God to us and from us to our children.

It is active, attentive, intentional pursuit of development of an eternal soul. It’s the most important work in the universe. And if you’ll note, it’s almost completely absent from all these conversations.

Instead, the dialogue revolves around “punishment,” with underlying presumptions of fault, penalty, and condemnation.

The instinctive (normal) reaction to those threats applied to children is defensiveness! Someone lobbed “You must condemn babies to hell,” at me.

But this is all an entirely wrong discussion when it comes to Christian parenting.
It’s a complete distraction from the actual matter at hand, or as I have said starts with the wrong question.

Let me use an analogy: should American children know how to read? (I will presume a yes). Say I stand up to bring awareness to rampant illiteracy among kids, would your presumption be that I despise, mistreat, and condemn illiterate kids, or that I care about them? Would you guess my efforts sought to condemn 3-6year olds, or to confront those (adults) who are ACTUALLY responsible for that “Should?”

Now say I am a loud advocate against illiteracy, but every time I try to speak up, I get shouted down by people who say I am “blaming kids,” “damaging and abusing them,” and “punishing kids for something that they can’t help.” They yell, “KIDS CANT READ!” And what if they keep it up , til the whole crowd is inflamed.What kind of an abuser punishes innocent little ones for what they cannot do? They tell sad stories of kids who are forced to sit in their chair and learn A is for Apple when hungry, and how they cry, about one whose eyes hurt , about another who had a splinter in her behind and no one knew for 3 hours, about dyslexia. And before long, everyone is working on programs to have “readers” follow these children around for life, to make all road signs into pictographs, etc. Literacy advocates became villains and everyone has forgotten the simplest possible point: kids can be trained to read, tho sometimes it’s hard. Love DEMANDS that kids be trained to read. The ONLY loving thing to do is train children to read. Whether the child picks it up in no time, it takes many years. Whether the child is fascinated or cannot sit still, hates it, and makes it a massive challenge for the teacher.

But all that is forgotten. The CHILD and what they actually need is lost in confusion that forgot what is ACTUALLY loving and necessary (training). Everyone is concerned with not damaging a notion of identity due to the a) implication of inadequacy that the illiterate child is not good enough and b) the “damage” that will be done by what it will take to train them. They ask what the child can do, not what they should do

Which makes perfect sense. Unless what humans “can do” (serve and please self) is actually wrong. Which is why my first question must be first. What does God say children must do? He says they must obey their parents. Even if the training is tough.

Maybe this analogy seems ridiculous but what if you had never met a child who could read? What if instead you had only heard horror stories of failure? What would you need to give you the COURAGE to say, no, I will train to child to read, as people shouted at you how cruel you were?

You would need to know that you know: children SHOULD read, though they can’t. The commands given to children are ACTUALLY commands to me, the parent. Training them to do what they can’t yet IS my job, and I MUST do it.

[Beth Cavete @BethCavete]

With respect, Marissa Franks Burton is devastatingly wrong.

It’s true that child development is not evil

Differentiation and individuation is not evil

Self-expression is not evil

But DISOBEDIENCE and DISHONOR ARE evil.

And disobedience/dishonor is the entirety of our inclinations from birth toward the Living God. So much so, that we are born with no burden of acknowledgment even of the existence of His will, much less submission to it. Disregard is the default.

We are born in the gross darkness of not knowing who He IS, that He IS, and that He IS to be obeyed. Whether our nature is sweet and compliant, or forceful and fiery, THIS is the darkness.

The little stage for this timeless metaphysical battle is set to play out in the relationship between child and parent, with this fundamental question at its heart: Am I my own master?

The progressive answer is the natural human one: Yes. I am that I am. I live unto my will and Love lets me do so.

The abuser’s domineering answer is also: Yes. You (child) are that I am. You live unto my will, and my self-love is love.

The True answer, and the only one that delivers both parent and child from their evil self-willed inclinations, is NO. We are obedient servants of the Living God, who is Love.

Those who do not know this cannot understand the Gospel or parenting, and that is because at the center of their understanding is Self, not God.

The pitiable state of children is the pitiable state of all humans: to know only self and not God, and to be inclined to the dictates of their own wills as god. Breaking in on this ultimate dark and universal deception IS NEVER EASIER THAN IN THE EARLY YEARS THROUGH GODLY PARENTING. Is it easy? No. Ofc not. But it is the easiest possible, humanly speaking; note that all who enter the kingdom must have faith like a child.

Obedience is not a matter of doctrine, or knowledge, a deception exhibited by some of the loudest “Christians” on this app every day. It is a matter of the orientation of the heart, and THAT is what is shaped most readily in those early years, when two things must be experienced together:
1) I am not my own master
2) the will of my master (my parent for now, God for eternity) is entirely love & goodness for me

Those who do not know this and try to teach, either the Gospel or parenting, are trying to map the solar system with earth at the center, and so their well-meaning equations and navigations are fatally erroneous.

This anthropomorphism is the fundamental gospel-corruption I find in all progressivism.

The heart of this debate and its weighty and devastating outcomes on either side

(abuse or indulgence, both are evil)

Is a GOSPEL matter, effectively ignored by instead having a tennis match with the other side of the false dichotomy.

Pharisees v Sadducees. Legalism or authoritarianism v progressivism. Right v left. An endless antagonism that is actually a devilish collaboration for condemnation. It sits undelivered, observing the other’s chains, & worshipping one’s own ideas.

The problem here is so much deeper than the method of delivery of discipline: it is the fundamental question of God’s character. Is curbing self-will Loving or Hating? What is discipline for? Whose will does it accomplish? Answer those questions according to truth and the method of delivery ceases to be a calculated distraction and instead becomes what it should be: a question with a varying answer depending on the wisdom needed for that child in that moment. What is the right tool for the job?

[Marissa Franks Burt @MBurtwrites]

This is everywhere & so irresponsible. Tell parents their 1YO is evil & they need use "the rod" & you give them a recipe for abuse.
It's functional narcissistic parenting-children exist to give parents' rest, to be arrows, to be testimonies-so opposite from Jesus led by serving.

[Beth Cavete @BethCavete]

@RevKimWChafee Very true, the ways to damage a child are endless. But the one the Scripture warns most urgently against is withholding correction from them. Prov 13:23-24

[Beth Cavete @BethCavete]

An observation from multicultural experience:

The notion that corporal punishment is fundamentally detrimental to human dignity and familial trust

Is pretty much a white/western thing.

[Beth Cavete @BethCavete]

You are quoting a person who just a few moments ago accused me of "beating" my children, lied about my "physical assault of a child," and cursed me in outrageous foul language for describing careful, intentional, loving physical discipline.

His handle is "peaceful fathers."
He is utterly clueless as to what peace, justice, or righteousness is. And guilelessly undisturbed by his total self-disqualification.

I couldn't make this up!

[Beth Cavete @BethCavete]

I love to hear this, and honor your committed parenting. I also note that having a 12yo male, there's a lot of life coming up ahead. :) But I sincerely wish you a continued peaceful and joyful parenting journey. It seems you're saying your son is respectful and obedient. What a blessing! I would never desire you to discipline behaviors that don't exist--that would be crazy!

[Beth Cavete @BethCavete]

I note (happening often tonight) that you did not answer.

If your claims about godliness and parental love are correct, why does Scripture say the opposite?
"Whoever spares the rod hates their children, but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them." Prov 13:24

[Beth Cavete @BethCavete]

I did not mention 1 year olds or doctrinal stances. I actually did not get into methodology or pragmatics, on purpose. All of that is downstream from Truth, so I was addressing metaphysical reality.

To what you claimed above: Why does disobeying require knowledge of disobeying? (willful disobedience is surely worse, but on what basis do you presume this?)

To the point are these two questions, regardless of capacity/ability:
Should humans (created) obey Almighty God (their Creator)?
Should children obey their parents?

If God IS, and thus is to be obeyed, but our natural state is to not even acknowledge His existence, are we not by nature (pitiably and pitifully) rebels? Or is your claim that we are only rebels if we have all knowledge and agency (are gods ourselves) and make a calculated choice to be rebels?

Is the Scripture true when it says that "Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child?" and that "the fool has said in his heart, there is no God (Ruler over me)?"