@wendelltalks Our communities and wider societies have agreed some basic rules to enable them to function - ie we have collectively agreed certain obligations to one another. We could have agreed different ones, and that’s why different societies have different rules.
@faithapologia How would that work, exactly? “Objective human value” either is, or is not, a thing. If atheism can “remove” it, then it was never objective in the first place.
@darwintojesus If I decide to act a certain way because that’s the way that I would like others to act towards me, that’s not arbitrary, but it is subjective.
@darwintojesus I’m fairly sure that this post of yours quite clearly demonstrates that the argument is not the evidence; the argument is about the evidence. Maybe you might like to try again to prove your point?
@TheHistoryGuy07 Interesting: are you saying that in order to question your explanation of anything, no matter how complex and uncertain, I have to have a coherent explanation of my own? Aren’t you presuming that there is such an explanation and rhat we are capable of knowing it?
@darwintojesus This isn’t quite true: subjective means “dependent on mind”, so it applies to abstract concepts like numbers and morality as well as feelings.
@AgainstAtheismX If satanism were one of the dominant world religions and a de facto national creed across much of western society, and Christianity were just a minority cult, you’d probably see a bit more anti-satan commentary from atheists…
@MartinTweats To be clear, then: are you claiming that God exists in the same way as those concepts that you cite (logic etc)? Ie “God” just has conceptual existence as a means of making sense of the universe. That seems like a much more limited idea of God than is typical in most religions.