@mikethenavyguy Nice the way Trumpism has just sort of naturalized fascists in suits with podcasts talking about countries, whole peoples, their lives, their histories, their national stories, like it’s trading cards.
The solution to your complaint is obvious: Pack up your bases and go home. You protect no-one and threaten everyone. You are the menace. The cost of your “friendship” far outstrips its benefit. Your only friends in Europe are fascists and Russians. Go home and stay there.
The same people who are pearl clutching about “undermining the NATO Alliance” are the same people who never demand European NATO countries step up in a more meaningful way for the defense of their own continent.
American taxpayers have provided a security umbrella for Europe while also subsidizing Europe’s social welfare programs for decades.
It’s time for a rebalancing.
I’m a Senator from the United States of America and I care about the American people more than the elites in Brussels.
You packed a lot of confusion into four sentences, Ezra, so let me untangle it slowly.
First, this line:
"So where is Israel's ancestral homeland if not Israel?"
You are doing what Zionism always does.
You take a religious or mythic claim that some Jews have a spiritual connection to a piece of land and you inflate it into a modern property deed for a 21st-century ethnostate.
Ancestry is not a land title.
If it were, half the planet would be on ships going back to somewhere else.
Most Jews alive today do not have continuous, lived, generational ties to that land.
Most Palestinians do.
That is the difference you keep skipping.
"Ancestral homeland" for you is a slogan.
For them it is the house key, the family orchard, the graveyard, and the village your side turned into a pine forest.
Second:
"They don't have a right to exist you suggest?"
No state on earth has a mystical "right to exist."
States are political arrangements.
They are born, split, reunify, collapse, get renamed.
People have the right to exist.
People have the right to safety, dignity, and return.
When someone asks "Does Israel have a right to exist," what they usually mean is:
"Do Jews have the right to live in Palestine without being slaughtered or expelled?"
The answer to that is obviously yes.
But that is not what your slogan is doing.
"Right to exist" in this context means:
"Does a self-defined Jewish state have the right to maintain a demographic majority and political supremacy even if it requires dispossession, siege, and permanent second-class status for the original inhabitants?"
That is not a right.
That is a demand for eternal impunity.
You can have equal rights for everyone between the river and the sea.
Or you can have a Jewish ethnocracy.
You cannot have both.
The "right to exist" language is just your way of avoiding saying out loud which one you choose.
Third:
"Palestinians have long lived alongside Israel in Gaza strip for millennia"
Israel has not existed for millennia.
Gaza has not always been a fenced-in strip.
You are mashing words together to hide the timeline.
For millennia, there were people living in that land: Canaanites, Philistines, Jews, Christians, Muslims, Arabs, and many others in between.
What you call "Israel" today is a modern state built in 1948 on top of their continuity.
Gaza as we know it now is not some cute example of coexistence.
It is the concentrated result of ethnic cleansing.
It is where many of the refugees from the villages your side emptied ended up.
They did not "live alongside Israel."
They were fenced, bombed, starved, and periodically massacred by it.
So let me answer you plainly.
Israel's "ancestral homeland" is the same soil where Palestinians planted their olive trees, buried their parents, and passed down their houses long before your state had a flag.
I am not saying Jews have no place there.
I am saying no group gets to turn myth into a weapon, erase the people already living there, and then hide behind the sacred phrase "right to exist" every time someone points to the bodies.
If Palestine truly stood as a free, equal land for all its inhabitants, from river to sea, Israel as an exclusivist project would not "stop existing."
It would simply lose its alibi.
Absolutely. Gaza erased any meaningful legal distinction between Trumpian gangsterism and European criminal complicity. Compromised western leaders can, and should, appeal to anti-fascism and crude nationalism to resist US aggression, but law is buried under the rubble of Gaza.
The Gaza genocide is Europe’s Achilles’ heel. It’s fundamentally compromised its commitment to international law, alienated potential allies in the Global South, and divided the Europe’s left from its centre - opening the road for Trump’s allies to gain power in European states.
@stphnmaher Beyond frustrating that anybody still uses the normal-people language of rights, justice, law, “sanity” when discussing Trump. He thinks people who talk like this are imbeciles. He only recognizes power and weakness. I think Carney understands this, EU leaders still sleep-walking
Beyond frustrating that anybody still uses the normal-people language of rights, justice, law when discussing Trump. He thinks people who talk like this are imbeciles, beneath contempt. He only recognizes power and weakness. Wake the fuck up.
He has gone too far.
Trump arbitrarily, without legal authority, imposes tariffs on longstanding allies to compel the annexation of an ally’s sovereign territory.
This cannot stand.
Europe and the UK should respond with strength and unity by imposing counter tariffs. And all of Denmark’s NATO allies, including Canada, should respond by contributing troops to the joint military exercises in Greenland.
The free world cannot abide economic warfare as a tool of territorial aggression.
If the response is weakness and disunity, he will exploit it.
A year ago he said that he would use “economic force” to “annex Canada.” He is now doing exactly that to annex a neighbouring ally.
We should respond with confidence that he is only about to get weaker. The US Supreme Court is very likely to overturn Trump’s emergency tariffs within days or weeks. And Trump is almost certain to lose control of Congress a year from now, effectively making him a lame duck.
If we do not act together to respond to this bullying, it will embolden him to go even further.
Reality check: Pre-Carney, Canada’s limited China engagement was never freely chosen but rather entirely a function of long-standing subordination to US foreign policy priorities, and Trump’s threats have freed Canada to pursue its own interests.
@Dred_Tory The prevailing fantasy is that until now Canada’s China policy has been independent. Our policy has always been *entirely* subordinated to the US priority of containing China’s competitive advantage. *That*’s the bond that’s been loosened and *more* independence is now possible.
@univrsle Canada’s China policy till now has never been independent. That’s a fantasy. Our policy has always been *entirely* subordinated to the US priority of containing China’s competitive advantage. *That*’s the bond that’s been loosened and *more* independence is now possible.
Trump says on Feb 1 he will impose a 10% tariff “on any and all goods sent” to US from Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, UK, Netherlands, & Finland, increasing to 25% June 1 “until such time as a Deal is reached for the Complete and Total purchase of Greenland.”
@shashj Feels worth mentioning that China has for years been the largest trading partner of Australia, Japan, S. Korea, Singapore and New Zealand, 3rd largest to US, and, to my knowledge, the population of these places have not yet been herded into communist re-education camps.
@gideonrachman@sophgaston Feels worth mentioning that China has for years been the largest trading partner of Australia, Japan, S. Korea, Singapore and New Zealand, 3rd largest to US, and, to my knowledge, the population of these places have not yet been herded into communist re-education camps.
Just another thing: CDC had to be forced by court order to restore data on its website regarding domestic sexual violence, data which the Trump admin had ordered removed. The admin. however includes the caveat, “this page does not reflect reality”, without argument or evidence.
@GenevaTradeLaw “Most Americans.” The plurality of Americans who gave the world Trump - twice - think we’re clubbing baby seals in Saskatchewan when not studying Mao’s Little Red Book in collective re-education farms.
@mikethenavyguy Feels like someone should mention that China has been the largest trading partner of Australia, Japan and S. Korea for years, and, to my knowledge, the population of these places have not yet been herded into communist re-education camps.
@prairiecentrist Feels like someone should mention that China has been the largest trading partner of Australia, Japan and S. Korea for years, and, to my knowledge, the population of these places have not yet been herded into communist re-education camps.
@daleethompson Feels like someone should mention that China has been the largest trading partner of Australia, Japan and S. Korea for years, and, to my knowledge, the population of these places have not yet been herded into communist re-education camps.
@georgemagnus1 Feels like someone should mention that China has been the largest trading partner of Australia, Japan and S. Korea for years, and, to my knowledge, the population of these places have not yet been herded into communist re-education camps.