@TArkesteijn@amchi1133@CUNY_Prof They can’t be disputed and part of Israel. They’re territories, controlled today and from 1967 to various degrees by Israel. The dispute is that the people therein think they are entitled to all of Israel and can destroy or impose sharia law on all the Jews of Israel.
@TArkesteijn@amchi1133@CUNY_Prof I can’t speak for chat. I’ve never used ai to respond to social media. Obviously, national law applies outside of a given jurisdiction. Aliya for instance. Disputed territories have no laws, so national law would have to apply
@TArkesteijn@amchi1133@CUNY_Prof Citizens of Israel have rights and duties under Israeli law, including whatever rights and duties apply under that law in jurisdictions outside of Israel, whether they be other fully recognized nation states, disputed territories, or whatever
@TArkesteijn@amchi1133@CUNY_Prof Rights pertain to citizens. Not the people who have been attacking them for at least 105 years or the “religious” movements (brothers, Hamas, holy war army, etc.) to destroy their recognized country and return them to dhimmi status.
@TArkesteijn@amchi1133@CUNY_Prof Israeli Muslims have the same rights as every other Israeli (+1). They can present bills to withdraw, change the map, change criteria for citizenship. They’re freer than any other Muslim in the M-E. I don’t see them doing that or asking for outside help.
@TArkesteijn@amchi1133@CUNY_Prof I said now make up. On average, the post 1948 expulsion from the Muslim world occurred 3 decades prior to the post-48 migration from the USSR. So, they’ve been in Israel almost two generations longer and their numbers have grown accordingly and are now a majority.
@TArkesteijn@amchi1133@CUNY_Prof Apples and oranges. Including the 900k Jews expelled with nothing but the clothes on their backs from the Muslim countries and who now make up a majority of Israelis. The Jews didn’t arrive on gunboats to their historical home. They rented and bought from the people killing them
@TArkesteijn@amchi1133@CUNY_Prof 200k to 2 million today, 10x, is apples to apples regardless of what the territory was called. “Unpopulated”/capacity is obvious comparing neighbor growth from 1922 at 10-15x vs Israel today to the Jewish mandate (~40x). There has never been an implied missionary edict in Judaism
@TArkesteijn@amchi1133@CUNY_Prof Thx for explaining. Idk if a pop can “naturally” grow at a rate that is double that of Israeli Muslims and you’re ignoring my other two conclusions: 1920 territory that would become the Jewish mandate was unpopulated and not controlled by any “Palestinian” - Muslim or Jewish.
@Seventium@CUNY_Prof They weren’t in Gaza for 18 years. Gaza had the purified society it wanted- Zero Jews and close to 100% Muslims. 10/7 never would have happened had Israel not pulled every Jew out by force on 2005. So, you’re recommending the same for J&S- yeah right, fool me twice
@TArkesteijn@amchi1133@CUNY_Prof It’s not complicated. Towards the end of the ottoman period, in 1920, in the land that would become the Jewish mandate, there were about 200k Muslims, and today there are over 2 million Muslim Israeli citizens with full legal rights living there- that’s 10x. How’s that wrong?
@TArkesteijn@amchi1133@CUNY_Prof Right. I said NOT J/S (“West Bank”) or Assah (“Gaza”) which are in purple on your map and included in your statistics, not mine. Where am I “wrong”?
@citrinowicz Danny, always taking, or pretending to take, Trump literally, instead of seriously. He’s not playing these sicko’s game. He’ll play along to manipulate them or our ungrateful allies, but at the end of the day, they’ll either capitulate or die à la 2/28 and the smart ones know it
@ZahoorUBashir@CUNY_Prof What do you mean 60-years ago? Capture territory from which Israel was being threatened with another genocide? Idk what you want. They’ve tried to give it back to Jordan/Egypt and even allowed a Palestinian state, forcibly removing Jews from Gaza in 2005. In return- terror, 10/7
@TArkesteijn@CUNY_Prof That’s essentially UBL reasoning applied to Israel. UBL: All Americans are potential taxpayers, therefore targets. Nazi Brothers: all Jews are potential IDF soldiers or reservists. You and UBL… are you proud of the company you keep?
@AntoniHouston@CUNY_Prof They should have stopped killing Jews and renounced the terror strategy readopted a century ago as the root of their movement by their Nazi mufti. Have you read the Hamas charter? Are you insincere or merely uninformed?
@TArkesteijn@amchi1133@CUNY_Prof I said Israel proper, not J/S, Assah, or Transjordan. Using post-1967 borders, there were about 200k Muslims in 1920 and over 2 million Muslim Israeli citizens with full legal rights today. That’s how I get to 10x.
@KarimSai6@CUNY_Prof You’re a military strategist? Qualifications? Never mind. It’s ridiculous on its face. Israel would have killed all the hostages had they not done their best to target over three years. The problem was the human shield strategy and the collaboration and vast support for terror.
@angevinlife@amchi1133@CUNY_Prof I said Nazi collaborators bc that’s the PLO’s origin. Read about the mufti and Hitler, Saddam’s uncle, the Farhud pogrom, the holy war army, and Goebbels’ protégés who escaped to Egypt and changed their names. The brothers were always at their core a vicious Nazi movement.